Ok lets look at this from a different angle. can you tell me why Fighter controllers and Airborne Technicians dont do this same course? After all they still get presented with a brevet.

The crux is "presented" with a brevet. Not EARNED.

They don't wear a brevet, they wear a badge. Enough said.

Now then lets see.

http://www.britairforce.com/images/raf_wings_raf_t.jpg So what do you do in the RAF then? You obviously fly as you have a brevet and must have done an exhaustive aircrew course.

http://www.britairforce.com/images/raf_wings_fc_t.jpg Ahh I see you are a fighter controller. Where did you do your aircrew training as you wear a brevet.

http://www.britairforce.com/images/raf_wings_at_t.jpg Ahh I see you are an Airborne Technician. Where did you do your aircrew training as you wear a brevet. Did you enjoy the 20 hour dominie package? Obviously the SNCO development that you received as part of your generic course was valuable.

Thread's becoming a little circular, methinks. It ain't gonna change back for a while, no matter how (if indeed it is) crap it is.

But out of interest, what branch is the brevet with 'RAF' in it, in Samm's post?

CG

Oh do be serious.:rolleyes:

According to AP 1358 the rearcrew brevet, which replaced the 5 individual brevets worn by rearcrew in Apr 03, contains the RAF monogram. The previous brevets were no longer issued after this date. Now as FC and AT badges do not contain the RAF monogram they are clearly not rearcrew brevets so therefore they are badges. I get your point but if you are so against the generic training system today maybe you'd rather there was a linguist BADGE in place of your brevet? :ugh:

Lets go and fly - I agree with you on this but please, no quoting of AP's on a sunday !!! Its my day off !!

My day off too, just making sure my facts were straight. SAMM, you could have a look on the RAF careers website and look under 'aircrew', maybe that'll explain who wears brevets? :ok:

Just making sure your facts were right? Obviously from that statement you must have a copy at home. Very sad...............:sad:

Shawbury
 

Can anyone shed some light on the Rotary Cse being cut from its current 40wks to 12wks?:uhoh:

This is in the process of being tested. It is unlikely to become the 'normal course' as it required lots of dedicated crewman costed hours and is therefore expensive. It suits certain students better than others.
It is too early to make an informed judgement as to the success (or otherwise) of the trial. Indeed the 'guinee pigs' will need to arrive on sqns before a constructive conclusion can be reached, which is likely to be 6 months from now minimum. They will meet OCF input standard but lack experience.
Consolidation is a valuable tool to training, especially when cost free (pilots hours), and IMHO its loss will be noticeable. Time will tell:

That said, the pilots arriving without having done a JP course was very noticeable, and is now quite normal. ....progress!!