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charliegolf 12th Dec 2023 08:19


Originally Posted by Gordon Brown (Post 11555268)
What, as opposed to one on the Battle of Britain, one on OCU number plates, caption competition, YET ANOTHER one on Vulcans, to name a few ‘current military aviation’ topics on the front page of this forum?

You forgot the Weber BBQ. Rookie oversight.:ok:

CG

charliegolf 12th Dec 2023 08:21


As the old boys of the USN weapons school said of Top Gun Maverick. "It is not a documentary "
And, all the ones I saw talk about it thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was... a fillum!

​​​​​​​CG

NutLoose 12th Dec 2023 09:34


Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim (Post 11555122)
They ain't said it yet. Cosford and Lossie have mind.

It's in flypast mag with pictures.

see

https://www.key.aero/royal-air-force-raf

Underbolt 12th Dec 2023 09:51


Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw (Post 11554869)
Likewise. I await season 3, probably about a crime in a barracks somewhere. That'll even all three services up !

I look forward to our heroine investigating goings-on within the Royal Army...

2Planks 12th Dec 2023 14:20

Is it as bad as Strike Force that bedevilled RAF Leeming in the mid 90s?

We’d been falling over cameramen and fulfilling daft requests for a few weeks when 11Gp arrived to do an AOCs inspection. After about 2 hours one of the senior members became so frustrated that he stated he couldn’t possibly run a decent inspection with the chaos. Until someone pointed out in a stage whisper that we had been trying to run a Squadron under the same circumstances for weeks.

charliegolf 12th Dec 2023 15:41

The Beeb have responded to the whining highly informed criticism by saying that (I paraphrase) all the niff naff and trivia that people are getting their BP up over had to be changed due to copyright issues. So there you have it.

CG

OJ 72 12th Dec 2023 16:16

charliegolf, I wonder what Auntie Beeb’s’ excuse is for the crap storyline and the poor acting! Admittedly that was in the only ten minutes that I saw!!! 🤷‍♂️ Part Two may have put Bogart, Bergman, and Casablanca in the shade…but then again…🤔🫣🤣

Video Mixdown 12th Dec 2023 16:28


Originally Posted by OJ 72 (Post 11555491)
charliegolf, I wonder what Auntie Beeb’s’ excuse is for the crap storyline and the poor acting! Admittedly that was in the only ten minutes that I saw!!! 🤷‍♂️ Part Two may have put Bogart, Bergman, and Casablanca in the shade…but then again…🤔🫣🤣

In that case you’ve spent more time whinging about it here than you have watching it. How odd.

OJ 72 12th Dec 2023 16:37

Video Mixdown - not whinging, per se, but having watched the whole of the first series I thought that I would channel my inner Barry Norman - and why not? 😁 - and try to save other poor souls from wasting six hours of their lives!!! 😉 But if you wish to adopt the ad hominem approach, then so be it!!! 🤷‍♂️😎

Bill Macgillivray 12th Dec 2023 19:40

I have had to bite my tongue somewhat, as I am informed - correctly- that this is only a fictional programme and not a documentary! Also told that it is not aimed at us old codgers and the Royal Air Force that we served in! Again, correct! I can only relate to my years in the Royal Air Force and treat this programme for what it is - a fictional tale (good or bad as you wish to see it) and bearing little or no relation to the real thing. This is television "entertainment"!!

beamer 12th Dec 2023 21:02

Meanwhile, back in Ambridge…….

BEagle 12th Dec 2023 22:16

I watched the first episode on iPlayer this evening....

A query - surely a relatively lightweight drone (ooh, the 'R-PAS' geeks really hate that word!) fitted with a machine gun must suffer recoil issues? Rockets and bombs are one thing, but guns?

Nothing to do with the RAF really, just another police drama - with added '5' spookery!

reynoldsno1 13th Dec 2023 02:19


The use of "British Air Force" rather than RAF was intentional.
I sometimes use the phrase as well, as many people in other places do not know which country the 'Royal Air Force' is from.

charliegolf 13th Dec 2023 08:54


Originally Posted by reynoldsno1 (Post 11555663)
I sometimes use the phrase as well, as many people in other places do not know which country the 'Royal Air Force' is from.

I was once holding on 30 Sqn (C-130) and bagged a jolly to Nellis. Inbound to one of the en-route stops, I was on the flight deck enjoying the view and listening to the radio calls. In response to, "We are a Royal Air Force transport a/c etc...", the controller asked:
"Which Royal Air Force?"
Our hero: "The Royal Air Force!"

He still had to explain though, the controller had no clue.

CG


NutLoose 13th Dec 2023 10:37


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11555600)
I watched the first episode on iPlayer this evening....

A query - surely a relatively lightweight drone (ooh, the 'R-PAS' geeks really hate that word!) fitted with a machine gun must suffer recoil issues?

and where did all the empty shell cases go?

Chugalug2 13th Dec 2023 14:37


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 11555782)
I was once holding on 30 Sqn (C-130) and bagged a jolly to Nellis. Inbound to one of the en-route stops, I was on the flight deck enjoying the view and listening to the radio calls. In response to, "We are a Royal Air Force transport a/c etc...", the controller asked:
"Which Royal Air Force?"
Our hero: "The Royal Air Force!"

He still had to explain though, the controller had no clue.

CG

Spent a pleasant evening in the Officers Club at Clark Field. Our accents were picked up by a USAF major. Are you guys Royal Air Force? Well, yes. OK, what are you drinking? Ah, San Migs! And orders another round. Despite our earnest protestations he wouldn't hear of us returning the gesture. It was the least he could do to return all the hospitality he had received from us! Naturally I enquired where that was. Why, Edmonton! Dumfounded, I could only muster a "Cheers". The shame still lingers, especially as he flew F-105s to North Vietnam for a living! No doubt I'll now be told what I should have said, but 60 years too late!

superplum 13th Dec 2023 14:43


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11555846)
and where did all the empty shell cases go?

You forgot the links!

teeteringhead 13th Dec 2023 14:53


I’m sure, but I didn’t realise MoD had the power to stop film makers using military insignia
. I'm pretty sure - having been involved in such things - that they don't.

I am also very sceptical of the IPR/copyright malarkey about badges and insignia. It's fiction FFS!!

Might have to watch it now to see what the fuss is about (maybe that's their plan!!)

NutLoose 13th Dec 2023 15:09


Originally Posted by teeteringhead (Post 11555946)
. I'm pretty sure - having been involved in such things - that they don't.

I am also very sceptical of the IPR/copyright malarkey about badges and insignia. It's fiction FFS!!

Might have to watch it now to see what the fuss is about (maybe that's their plan!!)

You might be dissapointed, two episodes in and we still haven't seen Beag's standing at the fence watching the aeroplanes and drones.

mopardave 13th Dec 2023 21:49


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 11554809)
The 'agenda' is to entertain. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that these programs tend to ignore basic levels of detail suggests that either they are ignoring the advice from researchers or they're really just not bothered.

Any vets around that could tell us if All Creatures Great and Small is technically accurate?

Dunno about that but "London's Burning" wasn't a million miles off if that helps?


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