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ORAC 25th Aug 2023 22:03

The Validity of Stealth
 
Does the same apply as multiple sizes and roles of drones take to the sky?

https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/...ilent-no-more/

The US submarine force should be silent no more

falcon900 26th Aug 2023 15:15

Interesting to see that mines still seem to be effective.
overwhelming the enemy’s sensors with noise? Window anyone?
Back to the future……..

Lonewolf_50 26th Aug 2023 15:24

Back in the 80's and 90's a great deal was made of "non acoustic ASW" techniques that the Soviets were developing and employing.
That didn't stop the USN from taking advantage of "as quiet as we can be" since you always want to make your opponent's job more difficult.
So no, getting noisy isn't the answer. That makes the opponent's job easier.
Find ways to counter the counter ... the never ending move and counter move continues.

@ falcon: yes, mines are still effective.

falcon900 27th Aug 2023 07:36

I wasn’t suggesting getting noisy, I was suggesting making noise to overwhelm enemy sensors, whilst having the primary asset remain relatively quiet.

biscuit74 27th Aug 2023 17:22


Originally Posted by falcon900 (Post 11492205)
I wasn’t suggesting getting noisy, I was suggesting making noise to overwhelm enemy sensors, whilst having the primary asset remain relatively quiet.

I'd guess that would have to be done carefully, so that echoes from the noise created don't reflect off the 'primary asset' ?

Two's in 27th Aug 2023 17:51

Changing your defence strategy to focus on a single emerging threat type - I think I know how this one ends...

falcon900 28th Aug 2023 08:20


Originally Posted by biscuit74 (Post 11492513)
I'd guess that would have to be done carefully, so that echoes from the noise created don't reflect off the 'primary asset' ?

Indeed, but depends on the type of noise, and serves to further complicate the detection task, not least by confusing detection assets as to where to look.

Asturias56 28th Aug 2023 11:29

"Around the most protected areas, like the Taiwan Strait, Chinese forces are likely to deploy mines as well."

its a big place the Strait at least 150 x 400 km = a shed load of mines - and of course mines cut two ways

falcon900 28th Aug 2023 19:07


Originally Posted by biscuit74 (Post 11492513)
I'd guess that would have to be done carefully, so that echoes from the noise created don't reflect off the 'primary asset' ?

i get the impression that most things in this arena have to be done carefully.


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