Originally Posted by SLXOwft
(Post 11427247)
The question of close family members with no right of abode is a humanitarian question that also needs addressing.
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The doctor has been brought out.
Seems it's A400s making the flights now. The first RAF aircraft in was a C130, though I believe European A400s had come and gone from the airfield before that. Perhaps some passengers still aren't happy with the A400. |
To me & I accept not everyone may agree, but the vast majority of the `British` citizens shown on the TV news being evacuated from Sudan, may not in fact be British after all. Possibly, like many of those rather fit, well fed looking young chaps leaping off boats onto the South coast beaches, having just crossed the channel.
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Originally Posted by Dunhovrin
(Post 11427222)
Can someone explain why we’re using the soon to be demobbed Hercules when there are perfectly serviceable A400s sitting around Brize. Waiting for spares..
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Originally Posted by kaikohe76
(Post 11427270)
To me & I accept not everyone may agree, but the vast majority of the `British` citizens shown on the TV news being evacuated from Sudan, may not in fact be British after all. Possibly, like many of those rather fit, well fed looking young chaps leaping off boats onto the South coast beaches, having just crossed the channel.
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If, as is alleged, the UK Government were advising UK citizens not to go to, or remain in, Sudan, then those caught out deserve limited sympathy.
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France, Germany and Turkey have used their A400Ms successfully as well. Like at Kabul before.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11427290)
If, as is alleged, the UK Government were advising UK citizens not to go to, or remain in, Sudan, then those caught out deserve limited sympathy.
Only if. |
In some way UK passport holders are still better off than US citizens as the US only picked up embassy staff.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11427290)
If, as is alleged, the UK Government were advising UK citizens not to go to, or remain in, Sudan, then those caught out deserve limited sympathy.
Only if. |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11427307)
Easy to say. Many of those that went out there were visiting family to celebrate Eid al-Fitr. If there is space I see no reason why vulnerable family members should not be brought out as a humanitarian gesture, much as other countries bought out British passport holders along with their own nationals.
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I think you will find they do not want the right of abode, they want to be removed from a war zone and from the conversations I have seen also want to transit to a third country. This can be achieved from Cyprus.
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"Anyone travelling abroad without reading FCO Travel Advice for their destination is being a fool to themselves."
Trouble is its often complete CMA by someone in London and bears little resemblance to what are the actual issues on the ground. Personally I've never believed the FO would be any use at all in the various interesting places I've been. If you think you might have to get out quick either don't go or make sure you have a plan. |
A lot of FCO advice has the same level of usefulness as motorway matrix displays,
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11427552)
"Anyone travelling abroad without reading FCO Travel Advice for their destination is being a fool to themselves."
Trouble is its often complete CMA by someone in London and bears little resemblance to what are the actual issues on the ground. Personally I've never believed the FO would be any use at all in the various interesting places I've been. If you think you might have to get out quick either don't go or make sure you have a plan. |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11427551)
I think you will find they do not want the right of abode, they want to be removed from a war zone and from the conversations I have seen also want to transit to a third country. This can be achieved from Cyprus.
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Originally Posted by Speedywheels
(Post 11427173)
BBC News at lunchtime today managed to broadcast a completely one-sided story of the doctor’s plight, highlighting the support they provided during Covid, but decided not to give any explanation why they were being currently refused flights back to UK. They just can’t help themselves to have a dig at the current Government, whenever they deem it possible.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11427578)
What they want and what is possible may have absolutely no possibility/connection with reality. Please try to stick to reality. I have often read reports in papers of adolescents accused of serious offences saying that they "wanted to be first-division footballers " with no proof / link to realisation beyond a lawyer's unsupported words.
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"It is precisely because people like you disregard FCO advice that they are now having to be evacuated by the military at great expense and with some danger to the personnel involved."
The FCO have half the world as a dangerous place - that may be true in general - but people still have to go to these places. If I go I don't expect the UK Govt to come and save me. I have had enough experience of the FO and embassy staff overseas to know they'll be gone and anyone else will be left. |
Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11427562)
It is precisely because people like you diregarded FCO advice that they are now having to be evacuated by the military at great expense and with some danger to the personnel involved.
This report offers a slightly different, and probably far more realistic, account of the dangers faced by those attempting to leave.... NHS medics and UK nationals faced risky route to Sudan evacuation point | Sudan | The Guardian |
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