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NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 14:59

Agreed FB,

There should be some way those that helped us in Afghanistan and got left behind, but made it out should be able to identify themselves to a consulate or Embassy in Europe and then be fast tracked over to the UK.

NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 15:07

Meanwhile over at Wethersfield

https://www.planet-today.com/2023/03...-to-leave.html


Military families living on a historic air base in Essex have been told they have to leave their homes, as the Home Office looks set to move asylum seekers onto the former RAF facility in a matter of days according to reports.

The families of British military servicemen have been told that they will need to vacate their homes to make way for male asylum seekers, many of whom will have entered the country as illegal migrants. Breitbart reports: A military wife and mother has revealed that her household has been informed that military families living on the MDP Wethersfield former Royal Air Force (RAF) base in Braintree, Essex will need to leave their homes to so far undisclosed locations.
This is so the government can house migrants at the facility as it tries to shift away from the controversial hotel migrant housing scheme. Speaking to The Express, the military mother said: “There are a lot of concerns about the impacts that it would have on their children because, you know, their children struggle a lot more with those things. So it’s quite hard for them, you know, having to uproot their children.” While they have been told that they must leave their homes, the government has yet to come up with alternative housing for approximately 24 military families. They will therefore be forced to temporarily live alongside the often unvetted migrants when they are shipped onto the base on April 1st. The base has erected a fence “about 100 metres” from the military family homes which will supposedly separate them from the incoming migrants, however the mother said that the fence is not sufficient to keep anyone from crossing, saying. “I don’t think it would keep my dog in,” she said.via @planettoday #PlanetToday: https://www.planet-today.com/2023/03...-to-leave.html

langleybaston 27th Mar 2023 18:54

Tell me that is not true.

The military covenant.

Oh! the disgrace. What have we become? I despair, I despair.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 27th Mar 2023 21:32


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11409793)
Agreed FB,

There should be some way those that helped us in Afghanistan and got left behind, but made it out should be able to identify themselves to a consulate or Embassy in Europe and then be fast tracked over to the UK.

i know of at least one flight out of Afghanistan that could have been used to bring people to safety. Sadly there were those that thought rescuing dogs was a higher priority.

mopardave 27th Mar 2023 22:25


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11409796)

No way........surely to god we aren't that screwed up.....are we????? Either this is complete cobblers or the lunatics are running the asylum. Tell me this isn't so!

NicolaJayne 28th Mar 2023 11:35


Originally Posted by mopardave (Post 11410005)
No way........surely to god we aren't that screwed up.....are we????? Either this is complete cobblers or the lunatics are running the asylum. Tell me this isn't so!

it's Breitbart

i don;t know the base in question but what;s the betting the Patch in question is an 'outside the wire' one rather an inside the wire ... interestingly a good few years ago the still in use SFA at Scampton was changed to be 'outside the wire' presumably to reduce the need to staff the guardroom etc once the CFS activities wound down in the mid 1990s leaving the Reds and various minor units on the camp

vascodegama 28th Mar 2023 13:38


Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY (Post 11409985)
i know of at least one flight out of Afghanistan that could have been used to bring people to safety. Sadly there were those that thought rescuing dogs was a higher priority.

If we are thinking of the same one, the seats were available and offered.

langleybaston 28th Mar 2023 19:25

Wethersfield: High Court injunction plan for air base migrants.
BBC radio online today.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 29th Mar 2023 00:24


Originally Posted by vascodegama (Post 11410313)
If we are thinking of the same one, the seats were available and offered.

Which begs the question as to why they were not snapped up if that was the case.
Sadly a whistle blower, Raphael Marshall, who worked as a desk officer in the Foreign Office,stated..."...clearance for Operation Ark came "at the direct expense" of thousands of Afghans left behind "

I see the petition with regards to Scampton is at almost 50,000 signatories. Shame that the petition in itself, titled "Stop RAF Scampton Being Turned into a Detention Camp" is grossly misleading. The guests will in no way shape or form be detained. That fact was clarified during discussions regarding Linton On Ouse when it became clear they would be free to roam and the Home Office imposed 10pm "curfew" amounted to nothing more than a welfare call to those who were adrift. .

https://www.change.org/p/stop-raf-sc...detention-camp

I wish Scampton and Weathersfield every success in blocking Home Office steam-roller tactics. Both sites are wholly unsuitable and if ithey are like Linton - even the refugee charities and welfare organisations said so!



Ninthace 29th Mar 2023 12:01

There are over 50,000 accommoodated in hotels. There is no evidence that the likes of Scampton, Wethersfield, Catterick etc will have the capacity or even be cheaper, but it will make another good headline. Why not spend the money on processing those waiting for a decision and solve the problem the government created in the first place?

mad_collie 29th Mar 2023 12:05


Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY (Post 11410581)

I wish Scampton and Weathersfield every success in blocking Home Office steam-roller tactics. Both sites are wholly unsuitable and if ithey are like Linton - even the refugee charities and welfare organisations said so!

Looks like it's a done deal. https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/n...YizPzKrj3RELVk

langleybaston 29th Mar 2023 13:23


Originally Posted by mad_collie (Post 11410943)

Disgraceful.

My counter-proposal is tented cities on Flatholm and Steepholm in the Bristol Chhel just S of Welsh Coast. Bracing, and no risk of the migrants catching anything nasty off the natives. Nice views to the north.

NutLoose 29th Mar 2023 14:45

Catterick too... that WILL be fun and games with the pongos there.

langleybaston 29th Mar 2023 14:57

"In future, pongoes are to be referred to as soldiers"

NutLoose 29th Mar 2023 15:03

Why? it's historic

chevvron 29th Mar 2023 15:07


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11410987)
Disgraceful.

My counter-proposal is tented cities on Flatholm and Steepholm in the Bristol Chhel just S of Welsh Coast. Bracing, and no risk of the migrants catching anything nasty off the natives. Nice views to the north.

Why not Holbeach; nice flat area in the Wash?

NutLoose 29th Mar 2023 15:08


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11410938)
There are over 50,000 accommoodated in hotels. There is no evidence that the likes of Scampton, Wethersfield, Catterick etc will have the capacity or even be cheaper, but it will make another good headline. Why not spend the money on processing those waiting for a decision and solve the problem the government created in the first place?


Simple fix, remove their Hotel accomodation full stop and turf them out onto the streets. ( all bar any Ukrainians or Afghanistanis that helped us.)

After all that is how they live in the likes of Calais, no wonder they wish to cross over to the UK, hotel, food and allowances. Before turfing them out scan their eyes and finger print them etc, so they can be picked up and deported as and when.

charliegolf 29th Mar 2023 15:18

Make it the law that anyone who originates from a country deemed safe will be immediately returned there*, without access to the asylum laws. It would be a start, and deal with the Albanians at least.

CG

I mean, the next day, and as soon as arrest warrants have been discounted.

langleybaston 29th Mar 2023 15:20


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11411043)
Why? it's historic

Did you not notice the quotation marks ...... the quote is a short version of an old folk-lore tale?

NicolaJayne 29th Mar 2023 15:20


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 11411053)
Make it the law that anyone who originates from a country deemed safe will be immediately returned there, without access to the asylum laws. It would be a start, and deal with the Albanians at least.

CG

define safe

especially given that you have all ready attempted to justify discrimination / defend those who discriminate against people with EA 2010 Protected Characteristics in another thread


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