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Warren Peace 20th Jan 2023 07:43

Hawk problems at Valley
 
Surely it must be time for another wheel to come off the Hawk T2 fleet.

We’ve not had a problem for a while, and a failure of the aircraft, might divert attention from the piss poor performance of the training provider.

Just a thought.

dervish 20th Jan 2023 09:11

There's another thread running on this where people who seem to be in the know point the finger elsewhere.

KrisKringle 20th Jan 2023 15:00


Originally Posted by dervish (Post 11370091)
There's another thread running on this where people who seem to be in the know point the finger elsewhere.

WP's poking because this one isn't out of the bag (yet) and it appears 'people ' either aren't in the know or are keeping zip lip.

Warren Peace 20th Jan 2023 15:09

In the know
 
Don’t tell them your name, Pike.

Timelord 20th Jan 2023 16:30

Maybe this is another part of CAS’s cunning plan to do away with actual aircraft and do everything synthetically.

Warren Peace 22nd Jan 2023 18:09

Responses from Wales
 
Is nobody going to go public about this?

Wrathmonk 22nd Jan 2023 19:00


Originally Posted by Warren Peace (Post 11371574)
Is nobody going to go public about this?

You clearly know more than you are letting on so how about you going public? Or are you just 5hit stirring?

chevvron 22nd Jan 2023 20:25

OK lets try this then.
Putin is known to favour clandestine means of eliminating his enemies.
Not only his warships but his fishing boats (ever heard the term 'Russian Trawlers') often operate close to our shores.
Huge numbers of lobsters and crabs in specific waters off the north east coast of England are dying due to some heretofore 'unknown' type of virus killing the crustacea; the government don't appear to know what this virus is or how it got there to cause such devastation.
Putin is fully capable of getting his minions to develop such a virus; he also has the means (via the aforementioned trawlers) to 'seed' the local waters off Whitby and elsewhere with it.
He knows he's on a hiding to nothing with his present campaign against Ukraine so he turns to other means to try to destroy our fishing industry.
Fantasy? You tell me; I think it's perfectly feasible (and no I don't like lobsters or crabs; can't stand the taste)

5thGenOnly 23rd Jan 2023 05:13


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11371633)
OK lets try this then.
Putin is known to favour clandestine means of eliminating his enemies.
Not only his warships but his fishing boats (ever heard the term 'Russian Trawlers') often operate close to our shores.
Huge numbers of lobsters and crabs in specific waters off the north east coast of England are dying due to some heretofore 'unknown' type of virus killing the crustacea; the government don't appear to know what this virus is or how it got there to cause such devastation.
Putin is fully capable of getting his minions to develop such a virus; he also has the means (via the aforementioned trawlers) to 'seed' the local waters off Whitby and elsewhere with it.
He knows he's on a hiding to nothing with his present campaign against Ukraine so he turns to other means to try to destroy our fishing industry.
Fantasy? You tell me; I think it's perfectly feasible (and no I don't like lobsters or crabs; can't stand the taste)

Fantasy

Asturias56 23rd Jan 2023 08:50

Much more likely its the local heavy industry.

have you ever seen Teesside - steel works, chemical works, a nuclear power station, a landing/processing point for N Sea oil and gas, ship breaking................ who needs Russian Science when capitalism can do such a good job?

After all they have a lot of previous form - just look around the rest of the NE of England.

Warren Peace 23rd Jan 2023 09:20

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....68aafa0410.gif
They think I’m a Russian Trawler!😂

Ninthace 23rd Jan 2023 12:25


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11371633)
OK lets try this then.
Putin is known to favour clandestine means of eliminating his enemies.
Not only his warships but his fishing boats (ever heard the term 'Russian Trawlers') often operate close to our shores.
Huge numbers of lobsters and crabs in specific waters off the north east coast of England are dying due to some heretofore 'unknown' type of virus killing the crustacea; the government don't appear to know what this virus is or how it got there to cause such devastation.
Putin is fully capable of getting his minions to develop such a virus; he also has the means (via the aforementioned trawlers) to 'seed' the local waters off Whitby and elsewhere with it.
He knows he's on a hiding to nothing with his present campaign against Ukraine so he turns to other means to try to destroy our fishing industry.
Fantasy? You tell me; I think it's perfectly feasible (and no I don't like lobsters or crabs; can't stand the taste)

Are you in the right thread?

India Four Two 23rd Jan 2023 13:16


(ever heard the term 'Russian Trawlers')
My first UAS Summer Camp was at Binbrook in 1967, home in those days to 5(AC) Squadron, flying Lightning F6s. We were allowed to sit in on the daily Station Briefings and I remember that the locations of the 'Russian Trawlers' were pointed out - one in the North Sea and one in the Irish Sea.

I also remember that when we flew cross-country and talked to RAF ATC en-route, we used the appropriate tri-graph callsign prefix and had to identify our aircraft type as "Single Piston". I bet that fooled the Russians bobbing about in their trawlers! :)

chevvron 23rd Jan 2023 13:33


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11371952)
Much more likely its the local heavy industry.

Already ruled out by the 'official' lnquiry.

SWBKCB 23rd Jan 2023 13:38


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11372147)
Already ruled out by the 'official' enquiry.

That's all right then... :rolleyes:

Still not spotted the connection to Hawks at Valley, though I'm sure the Whitby Fishermen’s Association are flattered by the attention

chevvron 23rd Jan 2023 15:06


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11372148)
:rolleyes:

Still not spotted the connection to Hawks at Valley,

The original discussion was getting bogged down by people implying they know but they're not telling so I thought I'd liven it up a bit.
The strange 'virus' affecting crustacea is genuine and has been widely reported on some media channels but not as far as I'm aware, the Daily Wail so most of you will not be aware of it until you order your favourite seafoods and find they are not on the menu.

DuncanDoenitz 23rd Jan 2023 16:36


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11371633)
OK lets try this then.
Putin is known to favour clandestine means of eliminating his enemies.
Not only his warships but his fishing boats (ever heard the term 'Russian Trawlers') often operate close to our shores.
Huge numbers of lobsters and crabs in specific waters off the north east coast of England are dying due to some heretofore 'unknown' type of virus killing the crustacea; the government don't appear to know what this virus is or how it got there to cause such devastation.
Putin is fully capable of getting his minions to develop such a virus; he also has the means (via the aforementioned trawlers) to 'seed' the local waters off Whitby and elsewhere with it.
He knows he's on a hiding to nothing with his present campaign against Ukraine so he turns to other means to try to destroy our fishing industry.
Fantasy? You tell me; I think it's perfectly feasible (and no I don't like lobsters or crabs; can't stand the taste)

You're suggesting its a pincer attack? Don't think that would work here (although I hear it crushed Asia).

chopper2004 23rd Jan 2023 18:16

Jet Set did nay have any problems
 
This was a happy bunch of newly graduates from Bangor's finest oops sorry twas a decade ago and it was T1


cheers

Warren Peace 25th Jan 2023 17:52

Valley
 
Well, there you go

royal-air-force-grounds-its-entire-fleet-of-fast-jet-training-aircraft-due-to-engine-problem

http://news.sky.com/story/royal-air-...oblem-12795301

BEagle 25th Jan 2023 18:02

Did Sky pay you well for your information, Warren Peace?


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