Not been an issue for almost 25 years. You can be whatever, but if it effects the service operation then that becomes an issue.

As needs to be seeing 20% of the Army come from abroad as we cannot recruit white British people to get inducted into army life. Base plates matter.

I know of only one person that ended up on the Reds as a first tourist engineer. He runs Jet Art Aviation now and the story is in Dave Gledhill's book "Ground Crew Boys"

In the remake it'll be a red setter named Ginger...

More likely to be Barky McBarkyface

How bout a quick contest to see which person could check the most boxes?

I'll start:

A black/Asian mix female that identifies as a man, who is legally blind, confined to a wheelchair by spinal injury, has Tourettes Syndrome, and has severe PTSD from an undisclosed traumatic event.

What a waste of money and resources. Time the REDS were disbanded.

Nooooo!

If the alleged reports of a 'toxic culture" of sexual harassment, assault, misogyny and bullying are correct, then is it any wonder ... ?!?!?!

50 plus years of respect for the Red Arrows and all they stand for is suddenly starting to evaporate - I hope the reports are proved to be unsubstantiated, but in so many cases there is no smoke without fire.

I wonder how some of the heroes of the past would have withstood scrutiny in this day and age - some of the reports, and records, of the RAF 'greats' leave a lot to be desired.

On the other side of the coin, you have to have that arrogance and mentality to be a leader and a fighter in the first place, so unfortunately it is hard to have one without the other.

A very sad day to be even discussing this.

Agreed, they need someone to use up all those steam driven Hawk parts they now have since they chopped the fleet.

The trouble is Spanner the world has gone anal and the fun police look at destroying anyones legal enjoyment, even if they have done nothing wrong, look at the Finlands PM who was dragged over the coals for simply enjoying a party with friends in her downtime, heck, she even was more or less forced to take a bloody drugs test to get them off her back, totally and utterly wrong. If they have not done anything wrong leave them alone, if they have it’s a different matter.

I was watching the news this morning and the reporter was commenting that the Ukraine war, one of the most important and tragic world events of this century has all but dropped off the news channels and press, but Boris’s party was dragged out in the press and news channels for over a year and it probably still hasn’t finished.


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Brings back a few memories. I worked with CW very briefly on 11 Sqn many years ago. I remember you had to put a gen app in for RAFAT. The overall mood seemed to be very negative about it and a sort of 'what's the point?'. I remember CW was very positive about it and spoke very highly of his time there. Glad I listened to him as I ended up posted there very shortly after. I accidentally stumbled across Jet Art Aviation some years later and he seems to have done really well for himself. I didn't know him particularly well, and I didn't fit in too well on the squadron, but I remember him being a proper decent guy.

Anyway... thanks for the mention of the book. Looks good and I look forward to reading it.

Maybe, but 40 years later the mighty Wokka was occasionally piloted by a pair with only one good leg between them

Which of course helped him in combat

One of my entry was posted directly to the Reds...he applied on the "dream sheet " for Little Riss so was surprised to say the least...

In far more recent times, several AMM's applied straight out of training...and got their choice.

I applied for Odiham from training and got it, I even got posted back to Brize off a course and back onto the same shift, which was unheard of due to the Boss requesting me and somehow wangling it, he even got my original posting changed…… so I must have been doing something right.

NutLoose. GA good fit or the ‘10s wing tanks?

My view too. Any 'elite' outfit tends to that extreme end of the graph.

You could add one-legged Nun I suppose, dwarf and deaf.

All in very bad taste, banter is off limits.

I reserve my right to offend in general terms.

Cheshire VC does not fit.

Was originally posted away then boss wangled me back to Brize but was then slated to go to base hangar, but they then went to eng wing said they hadn’t gone to all this trouble to get that to happen and got me returned to LSS..

1O wing tanks….. shiver.