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The Helpful Stacker 29th Sep 2022 15:49


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11304956)
There are certain things that only Officers know, such as the secret handshake, and they need to be taught these things.

The essentials that used to be taught on the "vicars and tarts course"?

Toadstool 29th Sep 2022 17:45


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 11304901)
Then why waste a day at Cranwell. Give them a uniform and say, at 2359 you are an officer. On your way.

CG

Perhaps they wanted their day to celebrate their promotion. Much as any Officer would rather have had their graduation parade and ball rather than getting their ranks thrown to them and being told to get on their way.

I was at the College during Covid and all graduating cadets were upset at the mandatory changes due to the virus.

The former WOs don’t wear the bands on their headdress because only Officer Cadets wear them. WOs on the CWOC are not Officer Cadets.



dctyke 29th Sep 2022 17:50


Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker (Post 11305011)
The essentials that used to be taught on the "vicars and tarts course"?


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11304956)
There are certain things that only Officers know, such as the secret handshake, and they need to be taught these things.

oh we knew that, just led you to think at least you had one thing over us 😉

MPN11 29th Sep 2022 18:10


Originally Posted by dctyke (Post 11305083)
oh we knew that, just led you to think at least you had one thing over us 😉

No problem … Officer Cadet in both RN and RAF taught me humility! 😎

Melchett01 30th Sep 2022 10:41


Originally Posted by Just This Once... (Post 11298044)
That politicians are foolish?

Wiggy may have wanted to be a CO but the RAF decided otherwise. He may have wanted to be an AOC but the RAF made the decision to appoint others instead. Wiggy's sponsors may have got him to 2-star but he only got the conciliation prize of a mediocre joint appointment before he limped to 3-star. Neither the RAF or MOD pushed him further but the then Secretary of Defence (the one that told Russia to 'go away') ignored the candidate list for CAS and pushed Wiggy into the job instead.

Outside of being a squadron boss (technically an OC post only), Wiggy's stint as CAS is his first proper command tour. That choice has aged like fine milk.

I would have thought that Tornado Force Commander and Commander British Forces Cyprus would have been command appointments?

Nil_Drift 30th Sep 2022 11:40


Originally Posted by Melchett01 (Post 11305524)
I would have thought that Tornado Force Commander and Commander British Forces Cyprus would have been command appointments?

A further twist in the tale is that he is now the Senior Duty Holder for all aircraft in the RAF but he's never been a Delivery Duty Holder nor an Operating Duty Holder.

In DSA01.2 Chapter 2 available via Gov.uk it says : The ODH and DDH should be able to demonstrate that: a) they have the ability to manage the RtL for which they are accountable by having appropriate authority and influence to implement agreed mitigation, including the necessary budgetary involvement; b) they are suitably qualified and experienced to undertake their delegated responsibilities;

How has he demonstrated his ability for the current post in this regard when the two preceding steps for SDH SQEP have not been trodden?

alfred_the_great 30th Sep 2022 13:18


Originally Posted by Nil_Drift (Post 11305558)
A further twist in the tale is that he is now the Senior Duty Holder for all aircraft in the RAF but he's never been a Delivery Duty Holder nor an Operating Duty Holder.

In DSA01.2 Chapter 2 available via Gov.uk it says : The ODH and DDH should be able to demonstrate that: a) they have the ability to manage the RtL for which they are accountable by having appropriate authority and influence to implement agreed mitigation, including the necessary budgetary involvement; b) they are suitably qualified and experienced to undertake their delegated responsibilities;

How has he demonstrated his ability for the current post in this regard when the two preceding steps for SDH SQEP have not been trodden?

we’ve been through this - that entire point of the SDH having a Senior Operator and Senior Engineer is to provide that SQEP.

Red Line Entry 30th Sep 2022 13:40


Originally Posted by alfred_the_great (Post 11305613)
we’ve been through this - that entire point of the SDH having a Senior Operator and Senior Engineer is to provide that SQEP.

In addition, Haddon-Cave was clear that these should be dedicated 2-star positions. That is not the case for either post.

Diff Tail Shim 30th Sep 2022 16:48


Originally Posted by Just This Once... (Post 11298044)
That politicians are foolish?

Wiggy may have wanted to be a CO but the RAF decided otherwise. He may have wanted to be an AOC but the RAF made the decision to appoint others instead. Wiggy's sponsors may have got him to 2-star but he only got the conciliation prize of a mediocre joint appointment before he limped to 3-star. Neither the RAF or MOD pushed him further but the then Secretary of Defence (the one that told Russia to 'go away') ignored the candidate list for CAS and pushed Wiggy into the job instead.

Outside of being a squadron boss (technically an OC post only), Wiggy's stint as CAS is his first proper command tour. That choice has aged like fine milk.

He was CO of 903EAW out in Basrah. Group Captain post you will find that was. I know as I was out there when he was.

dervish 30th Sep 2022 16:53


Originally Posted by Red Line Entry (Post 11305631)
In addition, Haddon-Cave was clear that these should be dedicated 2-star positions. That is not the case for either post.

I think the recommendation only said "senior rank". With other posts being downgraded maybe these were too?

RAFEngO74to09 1st Jan 2023 22:50

Latest on D&I from CAS, 1SL and CGS:


RAFEngO74to09 26th Jan 2023 16:54

Coming up live - CAS 1 Feb 03 Committees - UK Parliament

minigundiplomat 27th Jan 2023 12:26

Popcorn at the ready.

langleybaston 27th Jan 2023 13:07


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11375012)
Popcorn at the ready.

Let us hope the inquisitors are well briefed.

Stratnumberone 27th Jan 2023 20:53

Yes. .

Timelord 27th Jan 2023 21:21

So, what questions would we ask CAS if we were on the Defence select committee?

Apart from the obvious training pipeline question.

My starter is; “ What is the NATO minimum flying hours per month for a fast jet pilot and how many RAF fast jet pilots achieve that”.

And if the answer involves synthetic training;

” How many Typhoon training devices reflect the current software and mod state of the aircraft”



trim it out 28th Jan 2023 00:42


Originally Posted by Timelord (Post 11375340)
My starter is; “ What is the NATO minimum flying hours per month for a fast jet pilot and how many RAF fast jet pilots achieve that”.

And if the answer involves synthetic training;

” How many Typhoon training devices reflect the current software and mod state of the aircraft”

Is there a NATO FOB prescribing such a currency? If not, should there be as per the budget best effort?

Keeping in mind no two hours are the same, are they quality hours over quantity hours?

We've all got in the sim fires burning doing the perceived important stuff, but how many errors/mistakes are made on start up, take off, landing, shut down for example, that just aren't practiced in the sim yet are inescapable in live flying?

Atlasisrubbish 1st Feb 2023 15:01

Not a great advert, is he!

langleybaston 1st Feb 2023 15:20

Dreadful lack of eye contact, looks shifty ...................
Too much hand-waving. Sit on your hands, look them in the eye, take charge for God's sake.

How not to impress in an interview context

Very high blink rate.

Would you buy a car from him?

Countdown begins 1st Feb 2023 15:31

And he’s the best of the best!
A dark day for a once great RAF.


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