Wot about having the 22 back? Why did the Hunters do their thing with flap hanging out?


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Better maneuverabilty; not to be used above .9M, however.......

Only happened once, with aircraft and aircrew from other squadrons drafted in.

Yes, but WHAT a "ONCE"

Oh yes, can’t disagree with that!

In 10 years time there'll probably be a single "Red Arrow" :(

Red? Suspect it will have to be rainbow colored.

Before we reach that stage maybe the RAF should come clean and detox. Otherwise people might think that far from solving the problem by moving people, it actually remains and is not only at pilot level.

"Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, next to display is the 2023 RAF Aerobatic Hawk. Please welcome The Rainbow!"

I did muse that the reduction to seven was because there are seven colours of the rainbow to dye the diesel, (eco-friendly dye of course).

Being a local resident, about an hour ago they took off from here with only 6, five in a V and one tucked up in the middle.

Oohh! You'd fail the Public Display Authorisation for that! Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls indeed!

Oh, yes, I'm about forty "titles" short there. Sorry.

Ladies, Gents etc, The Brazilian ?

Ferret, Mac, Egress

OOOOOOOOOOOOH.
It's all gone very quiet. Censorship?
I guess that the spotters will have to wait until the Mail get's the story.

The best Military aerobatic team by far at RIAT were the Korean team. Spectacular formation changes during maneuvers, and very close formation at times.
The Italian team by presence in numbers overshadowed the Arrows too , with a small 7 man team, presumably financial cut backs?

I missed seeing the Arrows to be able to compare them against the others, but the Black Eagles where certainly the best on the day (sunday), was there any reason for the arrows displaying near the start of the day, I've always expected them to close the show ?

pains me to say it but their display is becoming rather dated and isn't helped by a 7 ship at present. There are many other exceptional teams out there and at RIAT both the black Eagles and Frecce Tricolori were far superior (in my opinion) with tighter formations and inventive manoeuvres. The Reds have quite rightly always been the pinnacle for display teams across the globe but the competition has caught up and now gone past them!

I first saw the Red Arrows at Leuchars in the mid 1980s when they were parked next to the 40 year old museum pieces of the BBMF, all very beautiful, worth having 100% but antiquated and dated. The Red Arrows are still flying the same aircraft 40 years after that event, they're equivalence to the BBMF in that timeframe is painful. They were not relatively impressive at all when I saw them yesterday with the 7 ship formation. We should do it well, or stop doing it at all IMHO, it's a little bit cringeworthy now.

Golden Eagles. But yeah, stole the show in my eyes. Really frickin' awesome in fact.]

Stopped for a McD's and a car recharge on the way home on Saturday, they flew in formation over R Leamington Spa, or thereabouts, as we topped up.

Yeah, because everyone's the same by order. Individuality be damned.

Reds reduce again
 

Performing for the slowly cooking thousands at Falmouth yesterday, the formation on arrival and throughout their display comprised just six aircraft. I can find nothing online anywhere that mentions this... anyone know what's gone wrong this time?

Steamer Ned

Shawbury Families Day today, 8 arrived, 6 displayed.

Be the "Pinks" before too long !

El.

From RAFAT to RATHIN ?

Word is that one of them was poorly and elected not to fly.

which leaves one unaccounted for

Do the Reds still arrive with the commentator? That would account for number 8. I have a photo of 11 Reds arriving in formation at Boscombe Down in the 90's.
9 display, 1 commentator and a spare.

Red 10, the commentator, was in the eigth jet.

From the sun
 

https://flip.it/l3vc-gRed Arrows drama as pilot sacked over ‘affair’ and second resigns over toxic culture

Been picked up by the big papers now. In the Telegraph

Red Arrows pilot sacked after ‘affair’ and second quits over ‘toxic culture’ | Metro News

I've never come across anything like this before.

FB

Getting to be a long suicide note...

Not meaning to be nosey but I wonder what the Toxic culture is that's referred to? Just can't imagine this in the days of the Great Red Arrows leaders of the past, Lee Jones, Ray Hannah AFC*, Ian Dick, Brian Hoskins etc.

FB

Drinking to excess, affairs, toxic culture, shock resignations, where have we heard that before??

I guess they can always rely their Diamond 1 formation and single singleton display elements

Apart from the obvious, one of the disappointing aspects of this story is the lack of imagination put into nicknames in today's Royal Air Force (e.g. Damon "Damo" Green).

Teresa?

Peasa?

FB check PMs

Nicknames are too easily offensive to third parties.