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sycamore 27th May 2022 23:02

Anybody any idea what was the last piston-engined aircraft to `take the wire` on a British carrier,and when...? and take-off...?

WB627 28th May 2022 01:09


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 11236675)
Anybody any idea what was the last piston-engined aircraft to `take the wire` on a British carrier,and when...? and take-off...?

My guess would be Douglas Skyraider AEW.1

Although a Whirlwind HAS 7 or HAR 7 might have been the last piston engine to land on a deck, no hook involved.


SASless 28th May 2022 14:15

This video would give rise to some claims.....piston powered aircraft making an arrested landing without a Tail Hook.....some real precision flying but I am not sure it would be considered "Hi-stress" by modern standards.



MPN11 28th May 2022 14:39

Wow ... COD, the early days!

"Mail Call"

Haraka 28th May 2022 16:32

Ken Wallis flew his autogiro off the back of the Isle of White ferry as a demo....:)
I tried to get the concept across of autogiros flying off and on fast patrol boats in littoral temperate waters ( e.g Gulf, Far East ) .The idea being that they could extend the boat's visual range and engage targets (smugglers etc.) with diversive weaponry whilst the boat caught up.

RN rep.. of course kept blindly trotting out "Winter North Atlantic" as a mantra ...............

brokenlink 28th May 2022 21:34

They did, and without the benefit of hooks.

SASless 28th May 2022 23:21

Similar to this done by the German Navy during WWII?




https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5db001a859.jpg

Haraka 29th May 2022 08:33

The Focke Achgelis Bachstelze rotor kite was unpowered and towed on a cable aloft behind a U Boat to provide an increased circle of vision. I was surprised how many survived the War . Ken Wallis was certainly well familiar with the type.!

treadigraph 29th May 2022 08:45

I believe the Tiger Club hatched a plan to try and land a couple of Turbulents on a carrier in the '60s or early '70s - think it may have been with the connivance of Pete Sheppard - but Their Warships said no...

Union Jack 29th May 2022 09:41


Originally Posted by Haraka (Post 11237250)
The Focke Achgelis Bachstelze rotor kite was unpowered and towed on a cable aloft behind a U Boat to provide an increased circle of vision. I was surprised how many survived the War . Ken Wallis was certainly well familiar with the type.!

Looks more Nike than Kriegsmarine.....:suspect:​​​​​​

Jack

VX275 29th May 2022 22:25

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....29b0b2a1a7.jpg
RAF Calshot couldn't find a U boat for the AFEE trials of the Fa 330.

Davef68 30th May 2022 14:39


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 11236675)
Anybody any idea what was the last piston-engined aircraft to `take the wire` on a British carrier,and when...? and take-off...?

I'd guess Grumman Trader from Ark Royal in 1972, unless someone knows of a later Trader/Tracker operation


sycamore 30th May 2022 20:17

Davef68,thanks for that,and ,as I had forgotten about `cross-dressers,sorry cross-deckers`,I should actually have narrowed it a bit to `British,single-engine piston...etc...apologies for that...

sandiego89 31st May 2022 18:21


Originally Posted by Davef68 (Post 11237890)
I'd guess Grumman Trader from Ark Royal in 1972, unless someone knows of a later Trader/Tracker operation

Speaking of cross decking, I am aware of the UK and US forces doing so but did the Canadians and Dutch do much cross decking with the UK Aircraft carriers before they got out of the fixed wing carrier game? Argentina? (before 1992 obviously)- I am aware John Farley demonstrated G-VTOL or another Harrier on the 25 de Mayo on its way south after being sold.

albatross 31st May 2022 19:03

Didn’t the Americans operate artillery spotting Piper Cubs / Taylorcraft off of LSTs fitted with a rudimentary flight deck during WW2?
EDITED “Reference found” https://laststandonzombieisland.com/...raft-carriers/

LTCTerry 31st May 2022 22:24


Originally Posted by lightonthewater (Post 11236098)
From memory, Eric Brown's book stated that he landed a DH Mosquito on a carrier (and took off again).

And/or a Hornet.

Union Jack 1st Jun 2022 12:54


Originally Posted by sandiego89 (Post 11238538)
Speaking of cross decking, I am aware of the UK and US forces doing so but did the Canadians and Dutch do much cross decking with the UK Aircraft carriers before they got out of the fixed wing carrier game? Argentina? (before 1992 obviously)- I am aware John Farley demonstrated G-VTOL or another Harrier on the 25 de Mayo on its way south after being sold.

Even earlier than that, I suggest.

Jack

Davef68 1st Jun 2022 15:03


Originally Posted by sandiego89 (Post 11238538)
I am aware John Farley demonstrated G-VTOL or another Harrier on the 25 de Mayo on its way south after being sold.

Too early for G-VTOL - RAF GR1 XV757 in 1969

https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net...dA&oe=62BBF239

MAINJAFAD 2nd Jun 2022 00:41


Originally Posted by Haraka (Post 11237010)
Ken Wallis flew his autogiro off the back of the Isle of White ferry as a demo....:)
I tried to get the concept across of autogiros flying off and on fast patrol boats in littoral temperate waters ( e.g Gulf, Far East ) .The idea being that they could extend the boat's visual range and engage targets (smugglers etc.) with diversive weaponry whilst the boat caught up.

RN rep.. of course kept blindly trotting out "Winter North Atlantic" as a mantra ...............

Autogyros were trialed off an RN ship in 1942.


Bagheera S 2nd Jun 2022 04:52

Gloster Meteor F3 flying from HMS Implacable June 48
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b5bc520cc.jpeg
Ok it did have a specially modified landing gear and hook.


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