Sweden Says Russian Planes that violated Swedish Airspace had nuclear weapons
Swedish TV4 reports that Russian planes that entered Swedish airspace on 2nd of March were carrying nukes onboard. This was stated by the Swedish AF.
Crazy people. https://www.tv4.se/artikel/6cNV5sPAa...venskt-luftrum |
Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11208013)
Swedish TV4 reports that Russian planes that entered Swedish airspace on 2nd of March were carrying nukes onboard. This was stated by the Swedish AF.
Crazy people. |
From the reports, the Russian pilots made it clear. How they did this isn't explained, but the inference seems to be they tipped their wings to show what they were carrying. Images of the Su-24s show they had a store of some sort under the fuselage.
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Sweden Says Russian Planes that violated Swedish Airspace we carrying nuclear weapons
https://www.tv4.se/artikel/6cNV5sPAa...venskt-luftrum
Translated: https://www-tv4-se.translate.goog/ar..._x_tr_pto=wapp "Two of the Russian planes that violated Swedish airspace near Gotland on March 2 were equipped with nuclear weapons, TV4 Nyheterna experiences. According to information taken by the channel, the violation was a deliberate act with the aim of intimidating Sweden." https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3c0684b934.jpg |
Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11208013)
Swedish TV4 reports that Russian planes that entered Swedish airspace on 2nd of March were carrying nukes onboard. This was stated by the Swedish AF.
Crazy people https://www.tv4.se/artikel/6cNV5sPAa...venskt-luftrum |
Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11208020)
How do they claim to know this ?
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11208048)
Perhaps they were rotating stocks out of Kaliningrad, the escorts being there to ensure no departure from the route rather than defend the formation.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11208059)
There is nowhere to hide anything on a SU24 or 27. They hang out pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11208063)
i have no idea how distinctive bombs are/can be . Is it so obvious ?
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How can they be so certain about what was actually affixed to those pylons?
Short of some extremely sensitive instruments which seem beyond airborne use in a fighter it is at best an estimate. Not to endorse any of the recent Russian activities but let's keep it factual. |
I would be very surprised if they were real nuclear weapons ( although I have been very surprised by Vlad a lot lately) . Could they have been what we used to call “shapes”, ie inert practice weapons?
Still pretty aggressive though! |
Originally Posted by zambonidriver
(Post 11208080)
How can they be so certain about what was actually affixed to those pylons?
Short of some extremely sensitive instruments which seem beyond airborne use in a fighter it is at best an estimate. Not to endorse any of the recent Russian activities but let's keep it factual. https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-n...dates-12541713 |
Originally Posted by zambonidriver
(Post 11208080)
How can they be so certain about what was actually affixed to those pylons?
Short of some extremely sensitive instruments which seem beyond airborne use in a fighter it is at best an estimate. Not to endorse any of the recent Russian activities but let's keep it factual. |
Originally Posted by BFSGrad
(Post 11208197)
...The standard method to confirm the presence of a nuclear warhead in arms control regimes is by using radiation detection equipment. Doubt the Gripens got close enough to use that scheme.
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Originally Posted by BFSGrad
(Post 11208197)
I am also skeptical that Sweden would be able to confirm that an Su-24 was carrying a nuclear weapon with optical imagery. .
take the WE.177 as an example https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4100cc45e6.jpg edit: here's an actual night sortie picture of a russian violating finnish airspace. The swedish incident was in bright daylight... I havo no doubts that the swedes know what they are talking about. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e1c57bd35e.jpg |
Am trying to find online a Russian equivalent of Beamr's WE177 diagram.
They don't appear to be as willing to share as the West! Presumably there are Russian versions of the coloured stripes - or Cyrillic writing of some kind... Noting also that things have changed considerably and that B61 training rounds differ in entire colour from live rounds. All OSINT - but won't post the detail here so as not to irritate people. |
I don't think a paint scheme can confirm anything other than someone has painted something the colour they wanted to.
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", imagine loading a live nuke for target practices instead of a traditional explosives and the consequences. Or instead of a dummy."
Given the Barnes Wallis theory "You can't make anything fool proof - the fools are so damn clever" I'm sure it's been done several times over the years somewhere |
V Interesting BEAMR but the main obvious difference on the WE177 illustration is the paint job - and that could be changed for all sorts of reasons
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Mistakes happen - and as the current war shows, the Russian armed forces are nowhere near as competent as previously supposed…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_U...apons_incident |
Originally Posted by just another jocky
(Post 11208326)
I don't think a paint scheme can confirm anything other than someone has painted something the colour they wanted to.
Again they might have spotted what looked like nukes - as of what was actually affixed to the pylons is anyone's guess. But a good headline for sure... |
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