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Fournierf5 4th Mar 2022 15:18


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11194596)
But it is spelt Azincourt at the site of the battle and that must carry some weight :)


would that be metric or avoirdupois??

Ninthace 4th Mar 2022 17:01


Originally Posted by Fournierf5 (Post 11194629)
would that be metric or avoirdupois??

Pre Napoleon - aviordupois or 'ave some peas.

Stu666 4th Mar 2022 17:36

Practice QRA. I've seen the Tiffies follow them back into French airspace in the past.

Sue Vêtements 4th Mar 2022 19:38

...that's just to take advantage of the Duty Free

SLXOwft 4th Mar 2022 19:49

I assumed practice QRA but as it started so far inland I did wonder if nos amis were experiencing communication or other difficulties e.g. equipment failure causing navigational uncertainty.

<History/Philology Lesson>Agincourt/Azincourt wasn't in France until the County of Artois was annexed in the late 17th Century, so the local language was Picard or possibly Middle Dutch, I assume the English pronunciation is due to a confusion of the letters yogh and zed - similar to the reason Mingiss is spelt Menzies.</Lesson>

CT - FYI My age is on the lower side of 60;)

langleybaston 4th Mar 2022 20:06


Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY (Post 11194508)
Austerlitz? I am a little more modern and tend to remember D-Day when we bailed the French out of the poo
;-)

The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 4th Mar 2022 20:14


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11194781)
The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice.

The tally on both sides may be much higher than 2:2.

Having RN heritage, we won't discuss their role in the Falklands working with and against us simultaneously.

Ninthace 4th Mar 2022 21:35


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11194781)
The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice.

Doesn't matter how often who beat whom, what matters is who won last.

Courtney Mil 4th Mar 2022 22:58

This forum is for Military Aviation. It is not an extension of the Daily Mail and Daily Express comments sections for the petty expression of hatred towards our French allies. Grow up.

Tartiflette Fan 5th Mar 2022 08:16


Originally Posted by SLXOwft (Post 11194772)
I assumed practice QRA but as it started so far inland I did wonder if nos amis were experiencing communication or other difficulties e.g. equipment failure causing navigational uncertainty.

<History/Philology Lesson>Agincourt/Azincourt wasn't in France until the County of Artois was annexed in the late 17th Century, so the local language was Picard or possibly Middle Dutch, I assume the English pronunciation is due to a confusion of the letters yogh and zed - similar to the reason Mingiss is spelt Menzies.</Lesson>

CT - FYI My age is on the lower side of 60;)

Wiki says you are wrong. The battle was in 1415 when Artois was in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Artois.

The County of Artois (French: comté d'Artois, Dutch: graafschap Artesië) was a historic province of the Kingdom of France, held by the Dukes of Burgundy from 1384 until 1477/82, and a state of the Holy Roman Empire from 1493 until 1659.

Asturias56 5th Mar 2022 08:29

"The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice."

I can never forgive the incompetents who managed to lose half of France in the 100 years War - all the best wine country for a start.......................

falcon900 5th Mar 2022 10:13

Does the winner not usually get to choose the spelling? Jus sayin....

SLXOwft 5th Mar 2022 10:34

Tartiflette Fan - a fair cop, I tend to think of the Duchy of Burgundy and its provinces as an enemy of France in the period but intermarriage caused side changes c.f. Brittany. I was more thinking of the linguistic change, more a result the enforcement of monlithic culture post-revolution.

Asturias - My recollection from studying the 100 years war at university was that many of the English barons refused to fight in and provide taxes, for putting down what was an internal French rebellion, once there was a treaty which established the Kings of England as the the legitimate French Kings. Parallel to today - it is a French War not an English one, we're not obliged to get involved.

I've never understood why George IV gave up the claim to the French throne; I suppose the intention to put 'l'homme qui se dit roi de France' back on the throne made it daft.

Like Lord Raglan many Englishmen still seem to conflate the enemy and the French even when we are on the same side.

We do seem to have drifted along way...

Lima Juliet 5th Mar 2022 11:56

SLXOwft

What a dull life you must lead - watching ADS-B Exchange! Go out and do something with your life my friend; we only get one, so make sure you live it to the best you can (which doesn’t involve watching ADS-B Apps!). :ok:

Tartiflette Fan 5th Mar 2022 16:21


Originally Posted by SLXOwft (Post 11195056)
Tartiflette Fan - a fair cop, I tend to think of the Duchy of Burgundy and its provinces as an enemy of France in the period but intermarriage caused side changes c.f. Brittany. I was more thinking of the linguistic change, more a result the enforcement of monlithic culture post-revolution.

...

Yer, I get that - like the boys from London always used to say " Sarf' end" when we knew it really was " Saaarf Ennd "

P.S. No complaints about the French throne until Ryanair starts fights to ???

BEagle 5th Mar 2022 18:02


Originally Posted by Courtney Mil (Post 11194838)
This forum is for Military Aviation. It is not an extension of the Daily Mail and Daily Express comments sections for the petty expression of hatred towards our French allies. Grow up.

Tout à fait, Courtney mon vieu!

Having worked with the FAF on several occasions, my opinion is that their professionalism and military skills are vraiment top notch!

And now back to les branleurs puérils who are ruining PPRunE Mil these days.

blind pew 11th Mar 2022 09:23

Beagle
 
A like before it's censored like my last post on the BA tail scrape and a reply to a question as to whether p1 or p2 would fly the overshoot.

minigundiplomat 11th Mar 2022 10:18


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11195255)
Tout à fait, Courtney mon vieu!

Having worked with the FAF on several occasions, my opinion is that their professionalism and military skills are vraiment top notch!

And now back to les branleurs puérils who are ruining PPRunE Mil these days.

was that handing out 1000L of four star and some glasses?


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