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You are very quick with the insults Mixdown. I am a U.K. taxpayer and voter so I am entitled to an opinion which is all that it is. The people that matter here are the citizens of the U.K. and should expect accuracy from elected officials. But rather than let this turn into the usual pprune ego fest I will let others contribute. You probably wouldn’t get the irony of calling others pompous on line.
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Like another minister recently, who confused the Black Sea with the Baltic Sea.
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Originally Posted by olster
(Post 11190091)
It is not an inconsequential mistake if the armed forces minister cannot even get the correct names of current British fast jets and quotes a redundant type. It demonstrates a mindset towards the military of the United Kingdom.
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Originally Posted by NAROBS
(Post 11190150)
Obviously a symptom of COVID . . . . mis-spoke, mis-pronounce, mis -identify and, wait-for-it, miss the target . . and its catching.
Main object of HMG in these circumstances is to keep the collective assemblage of Brexitting-chest wallopers, Glastonberry rubber band wearers, Harry potter and Ariane Grande afficionados, shamrock air hells-bells tourist types, footballing delusionals nice and warm in their comfort bubble with lots of syrupy words that confirm their limited life experience. Oh boy, are they in for a shock when Mr P and "Friends" pitch-up at Calais ! I think you need help... |
Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 11190197)
Like another minister recently, who confused the Black Sea with the Baltic Sea.
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Originally Posted by olster
(Post 11190161)
This is absolutely not pointless. A government minister should be on top of his brief; the devil is in the detail. Our front line fast jet squadrons comprise typhoons and F35s. If you are armed forces minister and you either don’t know that or you allow your spad / civil servant write your speech, uncorrected for crucial detail you are not on top of your job. Sure, it may have been an error written in the heat of the moment. However the RAF / RN crews who are front line, highly trained personnel can only feel undermined by this lack of technical understanding. Maybe it’s just me.
There are only 2 of them left now!! (I hate the way that some posters here like to shout others down by saying "I'm on the front line and I do/don't think what you said matters". This is an anonymous forum so no claims to authority can be made.) |
Originally Posted by NAROBS
(Post 11190150)
Obviously a symptom of COVID . . . . mis-spoke, mis-pronounce, mis -identify and, wait-for-it, miss the target . . and its catching.
Main object of HMG in these circumstances is to keep the collective assemblage of Brexitting-chest wallopers, Glastonberry rubber band wearers, Harry potter and Ariane Grande afficionados, shamrock air hells-bells tourist types, footballing delusionals nice and warm in their comfort bubble with lots of syrupy words that confirm their limited life experience. Oh boy, are they in for a shock when Mr P and "Friends" pitch-up at Calais ! You lost, get over it. Bigger fish to fry now. (The EU have refused to kick Russia out of Swift payments while the UK/US are trying to. Where's the EU's moral compass now?) |
I watched the speech live, and did do a double take at the outset at the use of the word Tornado! But that aside it was a very good speech by a guy I have to confess I have not heard of before, and the subsequent exchanges were of equal quality, showing a good unity across the house.
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(The EU have refused to kick Russia out of Swift payments while the UK/US are trying to. Where's the EU's moral compass now?) |
At least no one has mentioned Spitfires and Lancaster's yet
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Thinking back a few years IIRC the RAF's own on line advertising site had pictures of Tornadoes after the type was OOS.
Some contracted advertising guru using his" Ajiffniff." ? |
Regardless of the miss type what are the ' Tornadoes ' actually doing? Flying over Ukraine and oif so what do they do if they spot a Red also over a Ukraine. ..??
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How about Tiger Tanks?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....75bc78e775.jpg |
Poor bloke has probably been briefed to death the last few days, working hard on capacity and he went back to a core memory regarding Tornados (which were in service in the same place doing a similar task probably when he was serving) rather than Typhoons during a speaking part in a stressful situation.
Must be ace being perfect like some of the stone throwers on here. Good job we have a just culture now. |
Originally Posted by Kiltrash
(Post 11190366)
Regardless of the miss type what are the ' Tornadoes ' actually doing? Flying over Ukraine and oif so what do they do if they spot a Red also over a Ukraine. ..??
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So what do you think people serving would have thought when they/if heard that minor error by a `busy' politician?
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Originally Posted by olster
(Post 11190109)
It should be expected that ministers demonstrate ministerial competence and get the facts right.
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*Ring Ring, Ring Ring . . *
"Hello?" "Hello, could we speak to Vladimir Putin, please?" "Ah, yes, of course, that's fine - can I ask what it is in connection with please?" "Yes, This is the 1970's and we'd like our Outdated Imperialist Dogma back . . ." "That's fine. I'll see if he's available." Years later . . . "Hello, Caller - he is not available. He is in yet another Steroidal fight with his faceski. Too make it look youngski." "That's okay, we'll wait . . ." |
Originally Posted by tartare
(Post 11190483)
So what do you think people serving would have thought when they/if heard that minor error by a `busy' politician?
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Originally Posted by olster
(Post 11190161)
Maybe it’s just me.
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