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megan 29th Sep 2021 03:12

Tend to agree sycamore, the Macchi circuit posted by Spaz would even seem to suggest it was the aim point though, long way down the runway if so.

SpazSinbad 29th Sep 2021 04:04

'megan' & 'sycamore' have jogged me memory somewhat. I reckon both Point Cook & Laverton have the chevrons as suggested 'if you have not landed before them by now then go around'. Both these airfields were used by new WINJEEL pilots with some doing some weird landings initially. Even in the CT4 days at Point Cook the chevrons were in use (I think Laverton had closed by then perhaps).

'asturias56' got the creepy jeebus idea correct methinks. It descrcribes a LOW SLOW flapless landing [do the LIMBO 'how low can you go?'] that would not be for the faint hearted because it would be BAD. 'megan' would know R/W 03 at NAS Nowra having a well cleared fairly level under run. One of my few HAIRY landings in a Sea Venom was carried out there on a hot windless hot day in 1969. I got too smart attempting to land on the numbers in a flapless approach but got LOW & SLOW & UNDERPOWERED to have a heart stopping full power throttle bash that probably kept me from touching down in the dirt and I full stopped instead of doing a roller (telling ATC as I did it). They shirley would have wondered about the dust cloud but on this occasion & AFAIK did not report me. :-) The nose up attitude was high indeed making viewing the runway that much more difficult. (Deck Landing necessitated a low 400 feet tight circuit with thankfully the ball in the mirror being visible about halfway round base, with the Observer calling the airspeed in one knot increments in the RAN SEA Venom Mk.53. That was not my experience flying solo when they did not embark in 1969. Graphic from 805 line book.

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Ascend Charlie 29th Sep 2021 05:39

Clever cartoonist, that one!

zzuf 29th Sep 2021 05:47

Corporal stripes 1500 feet to run (or behind you).

zzuf 29th Sep 2021 05:52

The pic of Laverton brings back memories. Operating ARDU Canberras and Sabres from there was fun.

Mechta 29th Sep 2021 06:56

My Scottish girlfriend, from North Ayrshire, uses 'Creeping Jesus' to describe my elderly mother with Alzheimers, who wanders around the house silently, and listens to conversations from the other side of doors. Therefore an alternate meaning is, 'Always close by and making no sudden movements'?

Reading the 'Origins of the Term' paragraph of the Wikipedia entry, key bits are 'in sight of everyone' and 'moving quietly'.

This description emphasizes the slowness. Creeping to the cross

tartare 29th Sep 2021 07:13

Sat in back of a Saab into Wellington some years ago with the boss, who used to fly Blunties for the RNZAF.
"Military pilot up front," he said.
"How do you know?" asks I.
"Cos he's flying a curved approach."
Whether that was true or not - probably due to ferocious Wellington crosswinds - our hero then promptly flew through the extended centreline!
Now I know why you military lot fly such weird circuits with rounded edges - so you can all see over your Merlin or Griffon, keep an eye on the field and not stall, spin.
But I've never heard creeping Jesus... must be a RAN, RAAF, RAF thing.
The things one learns here...

Captain Dart 29th Sep 2021 22:16

At the joint Australian/Malaysian base at Butterworth Malaysia, Orion detachment aircrew in the dorms invariably woke to a tepid cup of tea placed beside each bed by 'CJ', 'Creeping Jesus'. You got it whether you wanted it or not, and a levy had to be paid to a 'Mr Tan' who employed him.

ShyTorque 29th Sep 2021 22:27


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11118128)
Indeed. It was in the Puma days at Gütersloh. I was filming the helicopter's approach to the site and I think boss was disappointed that I kept the aircraft in frame throughout. Something about not enough use of hedges and trees.

As in the 230 aircrew line book:

“I hear Lex has just had a bird strike!”

”Serves it right for standing up!”


megan 30th Sep 2021 02:42

Seem to recall back in the sixties anyone wearing brothel creepers was called a creeping jesus, might be just a senile memory at work.

SpazSinbad 30th Sep 2021 04:43


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11118976)
Seem to recall back in the sixties anyone wearing brothel creepers was called a creeping jesus, might be just a senile memory at work.

OMG that brings tears to my ears. I've not heard that term since then. :-) BLUE soft-soled suede shoes - ELVIS Luvs 'em. :-)


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