Good PR!;)

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You don't have to be an economist to answer the question " are you concerned a further lock-down will damage the economy". Ordinary intelligence will suffice.

Infection rates are meaningless as the vax programme has been so successful.

The fact that airshows have been effed over by this government, when football has been allowed to run rampant is disgusting. Testing 72 hrs before is meaningless.

This smacks of the Liebour party going after fox hunting but not having the balls to do the same to horse racing or angling: pandering to the masses. It's pathetic.

Is this a self answering question? Who doesn't think another, nay, endless lockdowns will damage the economy.

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I know it's the Daily Mail, but this may just be worth a read,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-Michie.html

You'll note how the insidious so an' so tries to encourage acceptance of her dystopia by comparing it to getting used to something much simpler, if revolting, and honestly, voluntary. Its been said already how we're now living in similar circumstances to life behind the iron curtain back in the day. East Germany UK style.

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If you think that - you never went there in its heyday, or had a close encounter with that obscenity, the Inner German Border.

Oh I admit to a degree of rhetoric to make a point, but we've plunged a long way from what we accepted as normal up to March 2020. I've been up to the inner German border in the day and I've stood and looked back at the East German Sentry peering back through his Binoculars from his watch tower along the wall between East and West Berlin. I've looked at the miserable run down blocks of flats, or so they appeared to be immediately the other side of the wall and read the tributes garlanded with flowers along the West Berlin side placed there as a tribute to those who were shot trying to escape to the West, by their own side. Ninthace, there's nothing much you can teach me about the horrors of any authoritarian regime which resorts to killing its own citizens to stop them getting out. My point about East Germany is we may not be in quite that predicament, but we've taken a big step in that direction and I dare say Professor Michie dreams of such a day dawning when you do need signed permission and travel orders to journey to the next town. Covid fear and intimidation, I can't prove, but for all we know, it could be the first step along that road, if the good Professor and her ilk have their way.

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Had you said getting closer to Singapore, you might have had a case.

Oh LOOK. Finningley Boy is a qualified virologist/epidemiologist/immunologist.

Oh, wait...

I did get stuck in Checkpoint Charlie for 45 minutes back in the day!

Actually I'm none of the above just to surprise you, but I have my suspicions about peoples' motives. There are eminently qualified people who take a different view, Professor Carl Heneghan, I was listening to LBC last night and there were a few certainly unqualified people getting on air to accuse him of motivated incompetence. I don't know what you would think those folk, but they did make clear their enthusiasm for wearing masks. I'm sorry ExAscoteer2, but people who make the effort to get too used to these temporary measures, and not be keen to return to normal, meaning normal, worry me.

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So you don't like the opinions of acknowledged experts because they don't fit your model of how the world works. Despite knowing only a little of the subject you then hunt around for opinions to support your own scepticism and cast doubt on the integrity of those you disagree with. This is how conspiracy theories start. It is also one of the ways authoritarian regimes operate. Oh the Irony!

Everyone is seeing the anti Covid rules in terms of black & white.

It's quite clear that a lot of medical people would prefer the rules to stay as long as possible. In fact some, see that the wearing of masks permanently would also stop deaths from other respiratory diseases. On it sown that would be a good thing but it isn't something most people want. Democracy is actually a messy business and lots of different views, ideals and facts are in the mix. We need to accept this and not adopt the extreme positions on either side

Casting doubt on those I disagree with? You're right Beardy, I'm unique!:} Further, you've got your argument completely the wrong way round, authoritarian regimes depend on mass public obedience, its the little guy who simply asks questions (that's my role in this scenario of yours by the way!) and thinks out allowed who disappears off the streets. I don't know what on earth you mean by conspiracy theories? Is this what they call Gas Lightning in modern parlance is it?

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Ah the finest form of wit!

​​​​​​Who said you were unique? Not me.

I'm not sure you have your political theory wrapped up. Authoritarian regimes tend to assert authority by decrying authenticity of dissenting voices (propaganda.)Totalitarian regimes operate through terror (disappearances) although there is overlap. What they have in common with each other and with you is a desire to stifle dissent, a conviction that they are right and an unwillingness to enter constructive debate.
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​​​​​You seem to be of the opinion that there is an authoritarian left wing conspiracy to change our lives in a way that you don't like.

If it's in the Daily Mail it must be true. They must be slipping though because they never mentioned her class or how much her house is worth.

I'll not make any further posts on here after this Beardy, save for this one, I'm the dissenting voice, I'm concerned that there are professional opinions which counter the more wide spread reports which favour more restrictive practices, nothing more than that. If Professor Michie didn't say, back in June, that she thought masks and social distancing would last forever, and I'm sure you'll nick pick over the specifics of that comment, she should have refuted it, publicly.

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As regards your second para, decrying authenticity of dissenting voices through propaganda and misinformation has happened regularly on multiple platforms over the past 16 months. Cancel culture is alive and well in the scientific and pseudo scientific communities, even more so in the fan base.

PS, For info, for all readers, Michie deals in behaviour change - she's a clinical psychologist, she has no qualifications regarding virology or epidemiology. She's on SAGE to change your mind and your behaviours.