Cosford air show cancelled
I see that Cosford has cancelled the postponed 2021 air show in September, citing the rise in coronavirus cases as the reason.
Perhaps they should have held it in Wembley Stadium; no worries there about putting 60,000+ people in close proximity with each other. |
Exactly Sir, money talks, and there's tons sloshing around the Great Beautiful game of Footy! Still, there's always next year eh!!:}
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Heard to was going to be turned into a Families Day 🤷🏻♂️
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Originally Posted by Pegasus107
(Post 11076361)
Heard to was going to be turned into a Families Day 🤷🏻♂️
That's not the tone of the official notification. If you're right the idea would be absurd and a PR disaster, there are no other RAF air shows. But then again, the grip on such matters by whoever advises the top rank, well it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Whether Government or any other August body, getting PR right is not their strong suit! Yet God knows they seem to place so much by it. FB |
Cancelled my tickets, I had them held over and over again, from the first cancellation.
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
(Post 11076301)
Exactly Sir, money talks, and there's tons sloshing around the Great Beautiful game of FootyFB
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Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 11076528)
well at 200 quid ish for a the most basic tickets for some of the Euro knockout stage games there certainly was a financial imperative behind keeping the euro games going, and there was also a requirement for mandatory antigen test <72 hours before attendance at some if not all games…how did Cosford compare with regard to ticket prices and testing protocol?
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I also think it is remarkable that a member of SAGE is a paid up member of the British Communist Party. |
To be fair everyone who attends the games at Wembley has to either be double vaccinated or prove a recent negative Covid test prior to being allowed in.
In fact I am lead to believe that at an upcoming airshow, everyone over 11 years old will have to do the same. Double vaccination or negative Covid test. Maybe that is part of the reason that Cosford have cancelled (but I don't know). |
My two tickets were £61.80 apparently, as that is what the refund was, it was a couple of years ago i bought them.
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Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 11076608)
Could you explain why that is relevant, let alone remarkable?
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I think you know the way to Jet Blast
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SWBKCB,
I'm terribly sorry if you think I'm guilty of thread drift, I imagine the response to your preceding post, and it, can both be seen that way. However, a question was asked of me, so I answered it, quite comprehensively I admit. What else would you have me do? FB |
If I understand correctly FB, you would have someone's technical opinion discounted because of their political affiliation and to expect non-economists to advise on economic matters.
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To be honest, I think the Cosford Air Show team deserve credit for making this decision. There are already ominous signs of a rise in infections and, whilst large events are being trialled to try and establish any correlation with infection rates, how soon that data becomes available is a moot point.
However, it's the rise in infections that is the most concerning because if they continue to rise, then at some point, despite the commercial and financial pressures, some form of lockdown will, however politically unpalatable, have to be imposed. This is hypothesis of course, however, it would be very imprudent to organise the event and then suddenly find it couldn't happen as a result, plus the loss of revenue involved in the planning and preparation. By cancelling now, unfortunate though this maybe for the public, at least any cancellation costs can be kept to a minimum plus the public are saved from any sudden surprises. There's always next year. |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11076835)
If I understand correctly FB, you would have someone's technical opinion discounted because of their political affiliation and to expect non-economists to advise on economic matters.
The past 18 months has shown a wider audience that the science community is contaminated with politics, in-fighting and silencing. Some very respected journals have done nothing short of full on hatchet jobs of some individuals who don't toe the line. Same with Global Warming. As for cancelling Cosford, this smacks of arse covering, nothing more. |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11076835)
If I understand correctly FB, you would have someone's technical opinion discounted because of their political affiliation and to expect non-economists to advise on economic matters.
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Originally Posted by CAEBr
(Post 11076940)
Have we now moved the debate on the veracity of face coverings on a bit then :}
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Lets not lose sight of the hundreds of servicemen at cosford who will be delighted with this rare bit of good news!
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Originally Posted by downsizer
(Post 11076960)
Lets not lose sight of the hundreds of servicemen at cosford who will be delighted with this rare bit of good news!
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Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11076835)
If I understand correctly FB, you would have someone's technical opinion discounted because of their political affiliation and to expect non-economists to advise on economic matters.
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
(Post 11076856)
To be honest, I think the Cosford Air Show team deserve credit for making this decision. There are already ominous signs of a rise in infections and, whilst large events are being trialled to try and establish any correlation with infection rates, how soon that data becomes available is a moot point.
However, it's the rise in infections that is the most concerning because if they continue to rise, then at some point, despite the commercial and financial pressures, some form of lockdown will, however politically unpalatable, have to be imposed. This is hypothesis of course, however, it would be very imprudent to organise the event and then suddenly find it couldn't happen as a result, plus the loss of revenue involved in the planning and preparation. By cancelling now, unfortunate though this maybe for the public, at least any cancellation costs can be kept to a minimum plus the public are saved from any sudden surprises. There's always next year. The fact that airshows have been effed over by this government, when football has been allowed to run rampant is disgusting. Testing 72 hrs before is meaningless. This smacks of the Liebour party going after fox hunting but not having the balls to do the same to horse racing or angling: pandering to the masses. It's pathetic. |
Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11076972)
You don't have to be an economist to answer the question " are you concerned a further lock-down will damage the economy". Ordinary intelligence will suffice.
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Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 11076608)
Could you explain why that is relevant, let alone remarkable?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-Michie.html |
Originally Posted by Thaihawk
(Post 11077023)
I know it's the Daily Mail, but this may just be worth a read,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-Michie.html FB |
Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
(Post 11077035)
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Its been said already how we're now living in similar circumstances to life behind the iron curtain back in the day. East Germany UK style. FB |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11077092)
If you think that - you never went there in its heyday, or had a close encounter with that obscenity, the Inner German Border.
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
(Post 11077103)
Oh I admit to a degree of rhetoric to make a point, but we've plunged a long way from what we accepted as normal up to March 2020. I've been up to the inner German border in the day and I've stood and looked back at the East German Sentry peering back through his Binoculars from his watch tower along the wall between East and West Berlin. I've looked at the miserable run down blocks of flats, or so they appeared to be immediately the other side of the wall and read the tributes garlanded with flowers along the West Berlin side placed there as a tribute to those who were shot trying to escape to the West, by their own side. Ninthace, there's nothing much you can teach me about the horrors of any authoritarian regime which resorts to killing its own citizens to stop them getting out. My point about East Germany is we may not be in quite that predicament, but we've taken a big step in that direction and I dare say Professor Michie dreams of such a day dawning when you do need signed permission and travel orders to journey to the next town. Covid fear and intimidation, I can't prove, but for all we know, it could be the first step along that road, if the good Professor and her ilk have their way.
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Oh LOOK. Finningley Boy is a qualified virologist/epidemiologist/immunologist.
Oh, wait... |
I did get stuck in Checkpoint Charlie for 45 minutes back in the day!
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2
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Oh LOOK. Finningley Boy is a qualified virologist/epidemiologist/immunologist.
Oh, wait... FB |
Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
(Post 11077229)
Actually I'm none of the above just to surprise you, but I have my suspicions about peoples' motives. There are eminently qualified people who take a different view, Professor Carl Heneghan, I was listening to LBC last night and there were a few certainly unqualified people getting on air to accuse him of motivated incompetence. I don't know what you would think those folk, but they did make clear their enthusiasm for wearing masks. I'm sorry ExAscoteer2, but people who make the effort to get too used to these temporary measures, and not be keen to return to normal, meaning normal, worry me.
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Everyone is seeing the anti Covid rules in terms of black & white.
It's quite clear that a lot of medical people would prefer the rules to stay as long as possible. In fact some, see that the wearing of masks permanently would also stop deaths from other respiratory diseases. On it sown that would be a good thing but it isn't something most people want. Democracy is actually a messy business and lots of different views, ideals and facts are in the mix. We need to accept this and not adopt the extreme positions on either side |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11077244)
So you don't like the opinions of acknowledged experts because they don't fit your model of how the world works. Despite knowing only a little of the subject you then hunt around for opinions to support your own scepticism and cast doubt on the integrity of those you disagree with. This is how conspiracy theories start. It is also one of the ways authoritarian regimes operate. Oh the Irony!
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
(Post 11077274)
Casting doubt on those I disagree with? You're right Beardy, I'm unique!:}
FB Who said you were unique? Not me. I'm not sure you have your political theory wrapped up. Authoritarian regimes tend to assert authority by decrying authenticity of dissenting voices (propaganda.)Totalitarian regimes operate through terror (disappearances) although there is overlap. What they have in common with each other and with you is a desire to stifle dissent, a conviction that they are right and an unwillingness to enter constructive debate. You seem to be of the opinion that there is an authoritarian left wing conspiracy to change our lives in a way that you don't like. |
If it's in the Daily Mail it must be true. They must be slipping though because they never mentioned her class or how much her house is worth.
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Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11077276)
Ah the finest form of wit!
Who said you were unique? Not me. I'm not sure you have your political theory wrapped up. Authoritarian regimes tend to assert authority by decrying authenticity of dissenting voices (propaganda.)Totalitarian regimes operate through terror (disappearances) although there is overlap. What they have in common with each other and with you is a desire to stifle dissent, a conviction that they are right and an unwillingness to enter constructive debate. You seem to be of the opinion that there is an authoritarian left wing conspiracy to change our lives in a way that you don't like. FB |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11077276)
Ah the finest form of wit!
Who said you were unique? Not me. I'm not sure you have your political theory wrapped up. Authoritarian regimes tend to assert authority by decrying authenticity of dissenting voices (propaganda.)Totalitarian regimes operate through terror (disappearances) although there is overlap. What they have in common with each other and with you is a desire to stifle dissent, a conviction that they are right and an unwillingness to enter constructive debate. You seem to be of the opinion that there is an authoritarian left wing conspiracy to change our lives in a way that you don't like. PS, For info, for all readers, Michie deals in behaviour change - she's a clinical psychologist, she has no qualifications regarding virology or epidemiology. She's on SAGE to change your mind and your behaviours. |
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