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Acronyms and other gobbledygook
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-...sense-anymore/
I bet there is a lot more than that in use. You just have to read the preface to the RAF yearbook. |
Just where are the acronyms there then?
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And a simple method of giving your spoken or written comms more impact is to use an Anglo-Saxon word instead of a Latin derived one.
Prime example : Avoid "commence" (far too popular in mil speak), Use "start". |
Having spent a decent amount of time in industry, having done a fair few years in the military, I can safely say that the only time I hear ‘business speak’ is when listening to a senior officer, usually one who has recently attended, or aspires to attend, Staff College.
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When I was in paid employment, it was usual to find those in middle management and those climbing the greasy pole would talk in their own language, leaving the rest of us to try and translate. One way of we plebs fighting back was to make up our own acronyms - I guess most of you will have done this as well. It was surprising how few on the receiving end, who had no idea what we were describing, had the courage to ask what had been said.
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2
(Post 11076113)
Just where are the acronyms there then?
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Some acronyms make sense allowing for a simpler word (eg: LAIRCM), others less so:
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Whatever happened to the basic principles of brevity, clarity and relevance? The current phrase that really annoys me is ‘moving forward’ rather than ‘in the future’. To me moving forward is what my car does after I release the brake etc. The other appalling word that has crept into management speak is ‘outwith’. I am so glad that I was educated and grew up in the previous millennium!
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Just put it in plain English!
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"Uptick" grrrrrr.....
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Try this for padding out a speech.
To secure Battle of Britain victory, the RAF, working with industry and global allies, drove a battle-winning technological advance at an extraordinary pace. This innovation-drive continues with each generation, as the RAF seeks to maintain the ability to operate in the ever more complex, competed and contested multi-domain operating environment of the future. |
“At this moment in time” really “gets up my nose” ....! :mad:
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https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisat...the-air-staff/
The Chief of the Air Staff is the 4-star commander and professional head of the Royal Air Force. Staff appointments in the Ministry of Defence have included the Operations Directorate and the predecessor to what is now Military Strategic Effects. |
Another one off the RAF website and a lesson in how to tick every box.
I regard Diversity & Inclusion as essential elements of the Royal Air Force. Through both we will develop wisdom, increase insight and deepen our understanding of the World today. This will improve our decision-making and enhance our lethality as we confront the challenges ahead. We must attract and nurture diversity through race, religion, age, disability, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity/reassignment, marriage/civil partnership and pregnancy alongside increased socio-economic representation and greater cognitive diversity if our Service is to succeed and prosper. Visible and invisible Diversity will enrich our understanding of the World, broaden our insight into its challenges and widen our debates to allow us to make better decisions, build velocity and act more effectively as a Service. In parallel, Inclusivity allows us to harness the innate and collective power of our Whole Force. We will benefit from a sum greater than the parts and materially and cognitively mobilise the workforce through a real sense of worth and reward. Everyone’s intellect, perspective and cultural points of view are vital to the Service’s endeavours. As the Royal Air Force Diversity & Inclusion Champion, I will deepen and broaden Diversity across the Service and extend and exploit Inclusivity across the Command. I am passionate about this and will be a strong advocate for both. I will lead our drive, set the direction, harness the network, direct the Champions and demand progress. I will seek out and reward positive behaviours and role models in order to inspire others and raise awareness of our successes. I will be an active and engaged ambassador with external organisations, which will help make our Service more accessible to minorities and enable us to learn from others. Do not get me wrong I am not against any of the above diversity, but if you are recruiting bus drivers you do not advertise for, nor recruit blind people, similarly if you are recruiting combat troops, you need fit people and able people, that’s just playing sensible. Everyone who joins the RAF must pass a fitness test. Pre-Joining Fitness Test The test is called the Pre-Joining Fitness Test (PJFT). To pass, you’ll need to run 1.5 miles (2.4km) on a treadmill within a set time. Then you’ll need to do a minimum number of press-ups and sit-ups within a minute. The time limit for the run and the number of press-ups and sit-ups will depend on your age and gender. |
I would say that a large number of all ranks should look at GO's rule 4.
Also the author of the original article should be careful with his apostrophe use! |
1991 working with our senior transatlantic allies regarding a possible overnight development.
" I'll make a straw man of this and run it up the flagpole for the head shed before breakfast". |
Battlespace is the one that gets me.
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Originally Posted by LOMCEVAK
(Post 11076362)
Whatever happened to the basic principles of brevity, clarity and relevance? The current phrase that really annoys me is ‘moving forward’ rather than ‘in the future’. To me moving forward is what my car does after I release the brake etc. The other appalling word that has crept into management speak is ‘outwith’. I am so glad that I was educated and grew up in the previous millennium!
'Moving forward'. No, I just turn round and walk away. 'Ahead of...' A head of cabbage please. MoD issues a book 'MoD Acronyms and Abbreviations - Definitions for terms and acronyms used throughout MoD documentation'. Over 21,000 of them in the 2014 version! https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-abbreviations Shortly before I retired I was gobsmacked to learn of an MoD office, in Oxfordshire I think, which you can call up and ask for the formal MoD definition of any word or phrase. Think of the fun you could have... |
Lol, pun intended, for each acronym there can be up to ten different meanings, you are screwed if you use several in the same document.
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The Canadian Armed Forces has a manual of abbreviations. The first abbreviation listed in the official manual of abbreviations is the abbreviation for abbreviation; ABVN :D
My all time favourite example of MILSPEAK, however was an initiative by the USAF to designate broken aircraft as being subject to an “unscheduled unserviceabilty” |
Lol, pun intended, for each acronym there can be up to ten different meanings |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11076479)
Battlespace is the one that gets me.
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Mission creep seems to have crept into civvy business parlance amongst the usual gibberish-spouting would-be high fliers...
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Once we acquired a VSO who was heavily into management speak. Before he was in post, our CO, a very clever lady, invited him for a briefing about what we did. I still remember her introducing him to our "product lines".
Later on we had management red in tooth and claw. There was the never to be forgotten meeting with the boss when management plans were introduced and everyone had to have mission and a vision statement. It went along the lines of: "The AOC has his vision" "Yes Boss" "And the CO has her vision" "Yes Boss" "And I, I have my vision" "Yes Boss" "And you Ninthace" "Don't tell me sir, I get to hear voices" He being an Engineer, it was entirely lost on him and a subsequent quip about raising an army and driving the English out of France probably didn't help. :rolleyes: |
So you didn’t get burnt at the stake by your own side?
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11076630)
I rather grew up with that one.. What was it before and did it have the same connotations?
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Nutty, from an Air delivered precision guided weapon aspect (Gobbledegook!), whether the launch platform be submersed, surface or airborne, the number of assets needed today to acheive the same effect as WWII is also a drop in the ocean.
At the same time, in line with the thread, a major threat to security then was the transparent wall cleansing engineering technician observing confidential military battlespace operations involving warfighters and battlespace managers attempting to deliver kinetic effects that would s shape the immediate battlespace to coalition better effects. (The window cleaner saw where the bombers were going to drop the bombs to help the war effort!) |
Intersection or intoxication
Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
(Post 11076550)
The Canadian Armed Forces has a manual of abbreviations. The first abbreviation listed in the official manual of abbreviations is the abbreviation for abbreviation; ABVN :D
My all time favourite example of MILSPEAK, however was an initiative by the USAF to designate broken aircraft as being subject to an “unscheduled unserviceabilty” |
Yet another article in praise of efficient communication - https://wavellroom.com/2021/02/12/it...ings-rhetoric/
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Originally Posted by tucumseh
(Post 11076484)
'Outwith'. Perfectly good and commonly used Scottish word..
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11076670)
i would say battlefield, now I know battlespace is supposed to be all signing all dancing air, sea and land combined force, but battlefield also incorporated all three in combined operations such as Normandy or the Far East, the technology may have improved on how information was passed and is more fluid, but it was still a combined operation with troops on the ground able to call in air power or naval gunfire support. And let’s face it, the amount of assets you would bring to a modern fight is a drop in the ocean compared to WW2.
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I'm a member of the PAA. (People Against Acronyms)
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When i hear "Battle Space", I always think of this...
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I just hope our current SecDef hasn't seen post 33 yet. Think how much money could be saved if we bought this stuff off the shelf.....
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When I had to ride herd on squadron correspondence, I became familiar with the DICNAVAB
It used to bother me that neither BOHICA nor DILLIGAS were featured as official abbreviations, because along with FUBAR, those were the most commonly used ones on a day to day basis.
Spoiler
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11076891)
Not sure battlefield quite cuts it in my book. A battlespace can be in space, in the air, on the ground, at sea, in cyberspace, in people's heads or any combination thereof, depending on the objective.
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
(Post 11076920)
I'm a member of the PAA. (People Against Acronyms)
What’s the penis appreciation academy got to do with it? |
I was nearly a FART... then somebody cancelled the Nimrod AEW.
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Stakeholders.... I mean for forks sake..
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"Stakeholders", yes. Buffy was one of them.
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