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NutLoose 5th Apr 2021 19:01

Just starting on Sky Nat Geo The New Airforce One
 
A look at the overhaul of the two Presidential planes and the technology that transforms them into secure command centres. Nat Geo 129 or plus 229

while on Sky History 123 or plus 1 at 9pm the recovery of the B17 Swamp Ghost.

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Asturias56 6th Apr 2021 08:01

It's going to look very ancient when they arrive in service - bit like flying around in a Lockheed Constellation

NutLoose 6th Apr 2021 09:01

If you haven't seen it, they take two new undelivered 747 800's that were ordered by a Russian airline out of storage to convert to the new Air Force One's.

One thing that struck me was the crew saying they were glad to be going over to a modern digital cockpit over steam driven instrumentation then showing the guy gutting the new aircrafts cockpit to militarise it by fitting completely new hardened wiring and displays to protect it from an EMP pulse in case of a nuclear war, A lot of the steam driven instruments that they were glad to change over from in the earlier aircraft wouldn't have been affected by an EMP. So much for technology advancement.

https://simpleflying.com/new-air-force-one/

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212man 6th Apr 2021 12:03


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11023224)
If you havent seen it, they take two new undelivered 747 800's that were ordered by a Russian airline out of storage to convert to the new Air Force One's.

One thing that struck me was the crew saying they were glad to be going over to modern digital cockpit over stream driven instrumentsand then them showing the guy gutting the new aircrafts cockpit to militariseit by fitting completely new hardened wiring and displays to protect it from an EMP pulse, in case of a nuclear war, A lot of the steam driven instruments they were glad to change over from in the earlier aircraft wouldn't have been affected by an EMP!. So much for technology advancement.

https://simpleflying.com/new-air-force-one/

Interesting, as that generation of aircraft will have been certified for HIRF under Part-25: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...e14.1.25_11317

Kiltrash 6th Apr 2021 14:02

Thanks for the heads up Nutty, I missed it so will look for it on catch up Remember the good old days when all you got was 3 channels with no means to record or on demand. ...

NutLoose 6th Apr 2021 15:55

Yup :)

They also have another one on shipwrecks that is new, the first was on the German Fleet at Scapa flow and included some footage of the scrappie raising some off the seabed.

The second one is on the USS carrier Corsica... the island and explores some of the aircraft wrecks around the coast, that's on the tenth

https://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail/411...ory-resurfaces



tdracer 6th Apr 2021 18:28


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 11023322)
Interesting, as that generation of aircraft will have been certified for HIRF under Part-25: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...e14.1.25_11317

Assuming the HIRF/Lightning/EMI requirements are similar to the KC-46, they are much higher than the current 25.1317 regulatory requirement.

The current 747-200 based AF One aircraft are a real hodge-podge of analog and digital - including a lot of A2D and D2A converters that are rather susceptible to HIRF/EMI.

chopper2004 7th Apr 2021 08:02

Go supersonic
 
Go Figure, Go Supersonic

https://futurism.com/the-byte/us-mil...-air-force-one

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e0e2d18e6.jpeg

cheers

Asturias56 7th Apr 2021 17:10

why? 9-11 proved its endurance you need not speed

NutLoose 7th Apr 2021 17:42

Which is odd when they binned inflight refuelling on the new 747, though it does have an 8k range in standard SLF role.

tdracer 7th Apr 2021 18:21


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11023994)
Which is odd when they binned inflight refuelling on the new 747

Are you sure about that? It was in on the briefing material that I saw before I retired. Granted, that was over 4 years ago - but most of the development costs for in-flight refueling for a 747 are already done so it wouldn't save much money.

NutLoose 7th Apr 2021 19:42

I think you will find Trump binned it.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...air-force-one/

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...nally-required

https://www.airlinereporter.com/2021...ess-a-preview/


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