UK Space Command - 1 April 2021
UK Space "Wings" - or "Non-Flying Badge" given the pages devoted on PPRuNe to this type of thing !
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Why is it a wing at all, it’s not a flying trade? What happens if you’re aircrew joining the new command, do you start stacking the badges on your uniform?
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Oh dear https://twitter.com/UkSpaceCommand has been suspended :cool:
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I strongly suspect "this is the thread of the Mysterons".
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Originally Posted by Pegasus107
(Post 11018077)
Oh dear https://twitter.com/UkSpaceCommand has been suspended :cool:
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Banter from one wag already !
Originally Posted by Willard Whyte
(Post 11018103)
One wonders which rule(s) it broke, perhaps something to do with beards?
The verified account is the one I posted. At least the uniforms will be cheap - the RAF No 2 Home Dress 1972 Pattern - AKA "Thunderbirds" jacket - to which "'wings" may be attached - available New on eBay for GBP 19.99 ! https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAF-Uniform...wAAOSwi7RZEzLr |
Cringe.........
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It replaces this, which is the USAF badge as the RAF didn’t have one. They’ve been wearing these for many a year at RAF Fylingdales, Vandenberg AFB and the Space Ops Centre (SpOC) at RAF High Wycombe.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4598f6ad4.jpeg Here is a Corporal receiving one having completed the Space Operators Course in the USA. https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles...space-command/ https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5fab2fbd3.jpeg So really this is fine. The normal rules in QRs applies, in that you wear the badge for which you are qualified for, if you’re in staff then you take your pick which one you want to wear if you qualified for it. It’s not a flying badge either, so if you are flying then it will subservient to any flying badge. Times move on and it was about time we stopped wearing USAF badges. |
I believe it’s getting it’s own cadet force .... the space cadets.
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I trust that the new OC Space Command will be leading from the front by replacing his (so last century) pilot’s wings with one of those.
That was tongue in cheek but this is a genuine question: Why do Space Operators qualify for a badge that does look a lot like a flying badge but Air Battlespace Managers ( is that the correct term?) or indeed Air Traffic Controllers do not? |
Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 11018242)
I trust that the new OC Space Command will be leading from the front by replacing his (so last century) pilot’s wings with one of those.
That was tongue in cheek but this is a genuine question: Why do Space Operators qualify for a badge that does look a lot like a flying badge but Air Battlespace Managers ( is that the correct term?) or indeed Air Traffic Controllers do not? |
Originally Posted by DuncanDoenitz
(Post 11018098)
I strongly suspect "this is the thread of the Mysterons".
I am Wing Commander Black. |
Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
(Post 11018248)
They did on the Shackleton, they do on the E3D Sentry and they will on the E7 Wedgetail :ok:
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Well the motto does end with `...Ad Astra' doesn't it!
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Cultural appropriation?
A badge that very much looks like an aircrew badge but isn’t.
A move to rebrand Airmen as Aviators. From the BBC - “Cultural appropriation is when a tradition, such as clothing or a hairstyle, is taken from a culture and used in a different way. It can offend people when people do this without making it clear where the traditions come from, or when they don't acknowledge how important they are to certain cultures. This can make some people feel as if their culture is not being respected.” Am I allowed to be offended or are aircrew not allowed to take offence? |
Any statement that has April 1st should be taken "with a pinch of salt".
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Originally Posted by esscee
(Post 11018589)
Any statement that has April 1st should be taken "with a pinch of salt".
I suppose that if everyone is an aviator, it follows that everyone gets a flying badge ! |
The February 1954 edition of Royal Air Force Flying Review (price 1/-) includes an article 'In the Year 2004' all about 'RAF space bomber No.17' launching from Launch Site No. 61 in Cornwall, then landing at Port Albany in Canada after an exercise hunting a 'submersible carrier' of the Royal Canadian Navy.
Total bolleaux, but interesting to know what the writer thought the RAF of the future would be like. Readers were invited to submit a letter about the RAF of 50 years ahead - and half a guinea was promised for each letter published! |
Any statement that has April 1st should be taken "with a pinch of salt". |
I wish them well, in fact, I hope they all Live long and Prosper
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Have I missed something? Is this for scopies and other forms of '3rd man in the cockpit'?!
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One more sleep till launch. The anticipation is killing me.
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Originally Posted by esscee
(Post 11018589)
Any statement that has April 1st should be taken "with a pinch of salt".
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What's really needed is some 'space' combat medals to go with those wings...
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1st April 1965. My commissioning date. Always in good company.
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When will the first press conference be held by the PM with Sir Hubert Guest and Professor Peabody?
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And hopefully with a celebratory fly-by by "Anastasia"
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11045928)
Royal Air Force invests in space capabilities |
I see that the first “Space Operators” non flying badges have been presented, so it wasn’t an April fool. Congratulations to all those who have achieved the standard but now we have Squadron numbers for all sorts of non flying units, and flying badges for non flying personnel. Oh dear! I know that moving with the times is important, but so are tradition and ethos.
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Oh dear! I know that moving with the times is important, but so are tradition and ethos. |
The new badge can be seen via this BBC report - scroll down as required:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58029083 |
Who will be the first to get a Ultraviolet or Infrared endorsement? Of course we still have (I think) the Space Drome at Spadeadam, just needs a bit of a clean up to get it up and running.
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Well done RAF, moving forwards and creating new badges, traditions, units, culture and customs whilst still giving a nod to the past with the single wing design.
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Brakedwell
I’m confused.
Why did you post a picture of a slightly aging Austin Powers with a bunch of senior officers? BV |
Originally Posted by Stitchbitch
(Post 11087545)
Well done RAF, moving forwards and creating new badges, traditions, units, culture and customs whilst still giving a nod to the past with the single wing design.
I wonder if the senior RAF officers in the picture would be smiling so broadly if the Space Ops people had been awarded pilot’s wings with the space ops symbol in the middle? |
Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 11087598)
An entirely reasonable view, but my point is this: If the Space Operations specialisation is so different to, say ATC or ABM as to warrant a badge on the left breast, a space TRADITIONALLY reserved for flying badges, then I wish they had designed an entirely new badge. In my view the use of the single wing for a non flying trade devalues those awarded to flyers.
I wonder if the senior RAF officers in the picture would be smiling so broadly if the Space Ops people had been awarded pilot’s wings with the space ops symbol in the middle? |
Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 11087598)
An entirely reasonable view, but my point is this: If the Space Operations specialisation is so different to, say ATC or ABM as to warrant a badge on the left breast, a space TRADITIONALLY reserved for flying badges, then I wish they had designed an entirely new badge. In my view the use of the single wing for a non flying trade devalues those awarded to flyers over the last 102 years.
I wonder if the senior RAF officers in the picture would be smiling so broadly if the Space Ops people had been awarded pilot’s wings with the space ops symbol in the middle?
As a single wing flying badge wearer I really can’t get too stuffy about this (2 kinds as well!). The Space Ops Badge looks different enough to both of my flying badges that I am entitled to wear, so I really don’t give 2 hoots. In fact, for anyone that qualifies for the Space Ops Badge, all I can say is - well done! As for wings in space. Here are the US military’s Astronaut badges - it doesn’t seem to worry them!! https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6c511fa8f.jpeg |
I have to say that I am really worried about the Space Command pseudo brevet (or whatever we're calling it) as that's a whole load more people at Air Command who will be unable to remove their wooly pullovers whatever the temperature. Maybe that's why their boss has directed them to come to work in their combat PJs (or maybe it's so they can pretend to be 'Joint', where 'Joint' = Army).
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