Originally Posted by Headstone
(Post 10993391)
If I remember correctly one of the factors contributing the Swissair crash off the Canadian coast in the late 1990s was that the cabin insulation in the aircraft was flammable and helped spread the fire above and behind the cockpit area. Not the actual cause of it but it helped spread the fire.
The material on the Swissair MD11 was a contributor - AN26? Together with polyimide (kapton) wiring as the likely ignition source. Subsequently replaced by better materials. It cost the airlines a lot to replace - it is not an easy job. |
Speke - I am trying to guess what type of office that is.
Nimrod? |
Tartare - close, it's a DH Comet 4 flight deck.
And with thanks to Senior Pilot for fixing my image link problem! |
If you put one of today's airline pilots behind all those levers and switches he would have to be led away for counselling.
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Originally Posted by ancientaviator62
(Post 10994558)
Condensation was between the blanket and the cargo compartment roof was one of the 'K' party tricks. It froze in flight and as you descended it thawed and showered the pax with icy water.
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Originally Posted by spekesoftly
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Originally Posted by ancientaviator62
(Post 10994558)
Condensation was between the blanket and the cargo compartment roof was one of the 'K' party tricks. It froze in flight and as you descended it thawed and showered the pax with icy water.
As a keen as mustard young PPL with a newly minted 152 rating, was fortunate to find myself on RNZAF 03, down to the ice and back in 95. On approach into ChCh, I asks if I can watch from the flight deck. "Sure," says the driver, "...just stand behind my seat and hold onto the frame, you'll see exactly what I am seeing." Crikey - standing up behind the pilot - these military guys sure do get to do things differently than civvy street... As we broke through the cloud layer on finals - the damn plane started dripping on everyone - various sighs around the flight deck as people mopped up... |
A typical ‘joke’ on the C130K was for the FE to use a Nav rule to feed the drips down the co-pilot’s neck while they were flying the approach...
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The other 'trick of the C130 was to collect rain water in the insulation blanket underneath the escape hatches This too would eventually add to the cascade of freezing condesation water .
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I was privy to a condensation investigation for a v large charter airline where the subject 757 was producing an average of 8 gallons of water per holiday flight...from the cockpit.
In my humble opinion, the grey insulation used by in military helicopters is to absorb as much hydraulic and gearbox oils as possible in order to hide the evidence in case of fire. |
Originally Posted by Ken Scott
(Post 10997397)
A typical ‘joke’ on the C130K was for the FE to use a Nav rule to feed the drips down the co-pilot’s neck while they were flying the approach...
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Condensation tricks.
Had a work colleague cameraman who was sent up for a ride in an RNZAF T-A4K. Sat in the back seat as he was strapped in and told "we'll just test the air ventilation to ensure it's working..." Got a face-full of fine condensation mist - oh how they all smirked. He was a rather obnoxious chap... |
Originally Posted by reds & greens
(Post 10993310)
On the RAF C130J it did a remarkably good job of keeping all the engine noise inside the aircraft.
Noise you say! Try 8+ hours in the C-130A [RAAF] with the big three bladed props beating the air into submission and sharing the vibrations and noise with the inhabitants... |
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