Grey insulation in military aircraft
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Grey insulation in military aircraft
Hello all,
purely out of interest, what's the name of that grey-coloured, quilted insulation you often see lining military aircraft flight decks and cabins?
Has a shiny, plasticky surface appearance, but no doubt fireproof...
purely out of interest, what's the name of that grey-coloured, quilted insulation you often see lining military aircraft flight decks and cabins?
Has a shiny, plasticky surface appearance, but no doubt fireproof...
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Originally Posted by tartare
Hello all,
purely out of interest, what's the name of that grey-coloured, quilted insulation you often see lining military aircraft flight decks and cabins?
Has a shiny, plasticky surface appearance, but no doubt fireproof...
purely out of interest, what's the name of that grey-coloured, quilted insulation you often see lining military aircraft flight decks and cabins?
Has a shiny, plasticky surface appearance, but no doubt fireproof...
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On the RAF C130K it was not soundproofing but merely an insulation blanket between the a/c skin and the cabin. As for being fireproof it gave off Phosgene gas and other noxious gases when heated to approx 800 degrees C.
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Originally Posted by reds & greens
On the RAF C130J it did a remarkably good job of keeping all the engine noise inside the aircraft.
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If I remember correctly one of the factors contributing the Swissair crash off the Canadian coast in the late 1990s was that the cabin insulation in the aircraft was flammable and helped spread the fire above and behind the cockpit area. Not the actual cause of it but it helped spread the fire.
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It was a major contribution to the fatalities after the Belgian AF crashed at Eindhoven. When I did the HEART job we visited Abbey Wood to ask a few questions ref the' J' which was still waiting to be introduced into service. They knew nothing of the insulation blanket problems nor of any of the other materials in the cargo compartment. They were also ignorant, among many other things of the noise problems on the 'J' which we had heard on the grapevine were much worse then the 'K' !
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
Knowing RAF/MODPE it was probably twice the cost of the stuff that would keep the noise out, too!
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When Sea King AEW Mk2s became the first a/c to have an integrated ANR in 1997, the scientists said one of the 'selling points' would be the system negated the need for soundproofing, thus reducing weight, and increasing fuel load and time on task.
It was pointed out that the real purpose of 'soundproofing' was to protect the precious wiring, hydraulic pipes, etc. underneath it from prying fingers and stray boots. Only the soundproofing out of harms way could be removed, and only then if the a/c remained within CogG limits; which was marginal.
At the time, the main cause of failure of one of the MAW LRUs beneath the seats in the Mk4 was 'bayonet insertion' into the cooling intake/fan, by bored RMs.
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Originally Posted by tartare
Hello all,
purely out of interest, what's the name of that grey-coloured, quilted insulation you often see lining military aircraft flight decks and cabins?
Has a shiny, plasticky surface appearance, but no doubt fireproof...
purely out of interest, what's the name of that grey-coloured, quilted insulation you often see lining military aircraft flight decks and cabins?
Has a shiny, plasticky surface appearance, but no doubt fireproof...
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Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
In a Lynx? My instructor described it as sitting inside the hallway of a bungalow and looking out through the letterbox.
Which a few, usually Booties, thought WAS the cabin door.
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Salute!
Do not overlook the other considerations of that batting.
In one plane I flew, a variant looked just like that and was fire resistant, but also ballistic resistant! It was like flak jacket material.....
..Gums recalls
Do not overlook the other considerations of that batting.
In one plane I flew, a variant looked just like that and was fire resistant, but also ballistic resistant! It was like flak jacket material.....
..Gums recalls
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Originally Posted by gums
Salute!
Do not overlook the other considerations of that batting.
In one plane I flew, a variant looked just like that and was fire resistant, but also ballistic resistant! It was like flak jacket material.....
..Gums recalls
Do not overlook the other considerations of that batting.
In one plane I flew, a variant looked just like that and was fire resistant, but also ballistic resistant! It was like flak jacket material.....
..Gums recalls
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In a Lynx? My instructor described it as sitting inside the hallway of a bungalow and looking out through the letterbox.
The Sea King had a brilliant soundproofing removal capability - if the drain valve on the heater feed from the combustion chamber to the cabin heating system failed (ie blew out as it was on a 90 degree bend and was prone to vibration fractures) it a. frightened the sh8t out of all the crew as it sounded like something properly major had just gone wrong and b. shredded the soundproofing around it and distributed it around the cabin. Big problem was that you couldn't turn it off, unless you shut down an engine
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
The Lynx was better than the Wessex - that was frequently described as flying a council house from the upstairs bog window
Originally Posted by [email protected]
The Sea King had a brilliant soundproofing removal capability - if the drain valve on the heater feed from the combustion chamber to the cabin heating system failed (ie blew out as it was on a 90 degree bend and was prone to vibration fractures) it a. frightened the sh8t out of all the crew as it sounded like something properly major had just gone wrong and b. shredded the soundproofing around it and distributed it around the cabin. Big problem was that you couldn't turn it off, unless you shut down an engine
Luxury, lad, shear luxury
You'll be putting the kettle on for a cuppa next, I s'pose 
