Russia claims their new future body armour will stop a .50 cal
Hmmmmmmmm...
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...liber-bullets/ A new Russian program to modernize the country’s ground forces is promising big advances in body armor technology. And we mean big: The Russian military equipment manufacturer Rostec promises the armor will be able to stop the bullet from a .50-caliber machine gun. Whether a soldier will ever be able to waddle to the front line, however, is a different story. |
Will the Opposition Leader be demonstrating its effectiveness? :hmm:
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
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Will the Opposition Leader be demonstrating its effectiveness? :hmm:
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Wont stop a .50 cal blowing your arm off.
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In fact, the .50-cal. hits with so much energy that it would likely kill you even if your body armor could stop it. The impact of the armor plate hitting your rib cage would be like taking a hit from Thor’s Hammer. That energy would still crush your organs and break apart your blood vessels and arteries, it would just allow your skin to keep most of the goop inside as you died. No laceration or cavitation, but so much crushing and shock wave that it wouldn’t matter. |
With a .50 machine gun it's unlikely to be just one round that hits - depending on the particular weapon the rate of fire is 400 - 1200 rounds per minute.
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Originally Posted by Ken Scott
(Post 10984895)
From a US website discussing ‘how a .50 cal kills you’...
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Not according to this gentleman who, despite his obvious ancestry, I believe was American...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....121098382.jpeg |
So maybe sometime in the future the momentum of the .50 cal going forward will equal the recoil going back towards the shooter. I guess at that point our US cousins will stop shooting .50 BMG from a big rifle.
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Originally Posted by Ken Scott
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Not according to this gentleman who, despite his obvious ancestry, I believe was American...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....121098382.jpeg |
momentum same in both directions
Originally Posted by Just This Once...
(Post 10984961)
So maybe sometime in the future the momentum of the .50 cal going forward will equal the recoil going back towards the shooter. I guess at that point our US cousins will stop shooting .50 BMG from a big rifle.
Imagine a ten pound gun firing a one ounce bullet at 1600 feet per second. It will recoil at ten feet per second. Momentum is 10*10 = 100 foot pounds. That's also true for the bullet 1/16 *1600 = 100 foot pounds. Kinetic energy of gun is 1/2mv^2 (5*10^2) = 5*100 = 500 foot pounds. Kinetic energy of bullet is also 1/2mv^2 (1/32 *1600^2) = 1/32 * 2560000 = 80,000 foot pounds. It's 160 times as much. I don't know the actual values, this is illustrative. The recoil will also include that from the high velocity gas propelling the bullet, but I believe recoil suppression devices vent much of the gas backward - at the cost of making the gun even louder. I have never fired anything bigger than a 12 bore shotgun, and that is loud enough for me! |
Maybe it will, maybe it won't....but underestimate the Russians at your peril...as the SU-57, continued space program and the Sputnik vaccine show.
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a fifty ball plinking into your armour is going to flick you away like lint, it may not penetrate, but being booted over the next county might not end well.
I'm thinking spalling... your tummy is going to have the wobbles as is every cavity of your body. The Ke is roughly the same as a 300lb mass running into you at 100kmhr, with a pointy stick that is 1/2" across. The bullet may not penetrate the vest, but the vest may penetrate the person wrapped around the bullet. gonna leave a bruise. the 50 has about 18-20kJ of kinetic energy. per standard |
Staying Power.
Originally Posted by clareprop
(Post 10985016)
Maybe it will, maybe it won't....but underestimate the Russians at your peril...as the SU-57, continued space program and the Sputnik vaccine show.
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Originally Posted by fdr
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a fifty ball plinking into your armour is going to flick you away like lint, it may not penetrate, but being booted over the next county might not end well.
I'm thinking spalling... your tummy is going to have the wobbles as is every cavity of your body. The Ke is roughly the same as a 300lb mass running into you at 100kmhr, with a pointy stick that is 1/2" across. The bullet may not penetrate the vest, but the vest may penetrate the person wrapped around the bullet. gonna leave a bruise. the 50 has about 18-20kJ of kinetic energy. per standard |
Armaments suppliers are pretty consistent, offering something that is not necessarily needed or capable of being used/ As long as it gets the Dollars / Rubles / Euros or whatever currency then the end justifies the BS.
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I saw a show a while back where they were demonstrating the US Army's 50 cal sniper rifle. It was punching a hole through half inch armor plate at something like 500 yds. I also seem to recall they have an "armor piercing" round for the 50 cal machine gun. Hard to believe they could come up with body armor that could stop that - at least body armor that anyone would be able to wear and still move...
Maybe the Russians are re-defining body armor as a small one person tank :ok: |
I thought Boris was a bullet dodger ?
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Sure .... it’ll probably just deflect the round .... right up his nose!
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Very efficient use of propellent (?) which if ignited in a bowl in front of you would be harmless(?)
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