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ORAC 12th Jan 2021 14:01

QRA Sonic Boom
 
They don’t seem to make them as loud as they used too.....

https://news.sky.com/story/sonic-boo...plane-12185918

Sonic boom after RAF jets scrambled to intercept private plane

G-ARZG 12th Jan 2021 14:05

Is this the culprit? D-AFAL
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8c57ffb8d8.jpg

Hot 'n' High 12th Jan 2021 14:34


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10966397)
They don’t seem to make them as loud as they used too.....

Recall doing a RAS (Ammo) in the South West Approaches one Summers evening. Then, unknown to all, a Concorde decided to do its accel out into the Atlantic heading off to the States..........

That is NOT what you want to hear during a RAS (Ammo)!!!!!!! If the Concorde crew could have seen the looks on our faces bobbing about on our "war canoe" 50,000+ ft below them.......... :ok:

caiman27 12th Jan 2021 14:48


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10966397)
They donít seem to make them as loud as they used too.....

https://news.sky.com/story/sonic-boo...plane-12185918

Sonic boom after RAF jets scrambled to intercept private plane

It was loud enough here. Windows duly rattled. But we are getting used to them - second one this year.

chopper2004 12th Jan 2021 15:05

Heard it over here in Cambridge earlier ..and RTb
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c77338f7.jpeg


cheers


Tashengurt 12th Jan 2021 15:19

Is this more common or is it just a social media thing?

ORAC 12th Jan 2021 18:04

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-barrier.html

Bombardier Global Express D-AFAL



https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2a23c3e3e.jpeg

treadigraph 12th Jan 2021 18:13

Are those ripples in the paintwork down to the shockwave?

Non Linear Gear 12th Jan 2021 18:26

Question is, What was it doing flying into UK airspace without a known flight plan or communications with ATC? I hope the owners get billed the cost of the QRA shout. Travel into this country is essential work only, not leisure. If it is not for business reasons inside the government restrictions.

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP 12th Jan 2021 19:34

That is one shocking paint scheme. Good to see the Brits intercepting the Germans again.

Herod 12th Jan 2021 20:30


Good to see the Brits intercepting the Germans again.
Just an old habit. :ok:

air pig 12th Jan 2021 22:09


Originally Posted by Non Linear Gear (Post 10966586)
Question is, What was it doing flying into UK airspace without a known flight plan or communications with ATC? I hope the owners get billed the cost of the QRA shout. Travel into this country is essential work only, not leisure. If it is not for business reasons inside the government restrictions.

They will be billed according to a pilot colleague as one day we were flying a fixed wing aeromedical flight from Europe to the UK, he called me up to the front and said a well known airline had an aircraft with two Typhoons sat off their wings some miles ahead and it was going to cost the airline a lot of money unless it was a system failure. Knowing the airline it was probably the pilots who were going to be paying and I suspect a short sharp interview with the CAA.

Caboclo 12th Jan 2021 22:15

I rather like the paint scheme. I wonder if I should apply for the newly opened position?

Apparently mocking journalistic standards today is too easy to even bother with anymore.

Non Linear Gear 12th Jan 2021 23:02


Originally Posted by air pig (Post 10966717)
They will be billed according to a pilot colleague as one day we were flying a fixed wing aeromedical flight from Europe to the UK, he called me up to the front and said a well known airline had an aircraft with two Typhoons sat off their wings some miles ahead and it was going to cost the airline a lot of money unless it was a system failure. Knowing the airline it was probably the pilots who were going to be paying and I suspect a short sharp interview with the CAA.

Hope the passengers, if no essential travel pay for it. They paid the bucks and likely told the pilots so. If not essential, they should get a flea in the ear too.

NutLoose 13th Jan 2021 02:11

I just hope he didn’t have any ham sandwiches on board, or he’ll really be in it.

TBM-Legend 13th Jan 2021 07:10


Originally Posted by Non Linear Gear (Post 10966586)
Question is, What was it doing flying into UK airspace without a known flight plan or communications with ATC? I hope the owners get billed the cost of the QRA shout. Travel into this country is essential work only, not leisure. If it is not for business reasons inside the government restrictions.


Nothing unusual here. In 1940 they came into UK airspace without lodging a flight plan or checking in with ATC!

LeftBlank 13th Jan 2021 08:05

FPL
 

Originally Posted by Non Linear Gear (Post 10966586)
Question is, What was it doing flying into UK airspace without a known flight plan or communications with ATC? I hope the owners get billed the cost of the QRA shout. Travel into this country is essential work only, not leisure. If it is not for business reasons inside the government restrictions.

The aircraft would have been on an IFR Flight Plan and would have been talking to ATC. From the info released so far it looks like an equipment problem (or finger trouble) leading to a prolonged loss of communication. If ATC canít get hold of the crew using all means then an intercept in these circumstances is standard procedure.

Chris Kebab 13th Jan 2021 09:16

If it was a box problem it was fixed pretty sharpish. It was on the ground at Stansted less than 90 mins, did a short hop over to Birmingham for a hour (presumably to pick up the original intended pax) and then legged it directly to Barbados! Nice for some...

wiggy 13th Jan 2021 09:37


Originally Posted by Non Linear Gear (Post 10966586)
Question is, What was it doing flying into UK airspace without a known flight plan or communications with ATC? I hope the owners get billed the cost of the QRA shout. Travel into this country is essential work only, not leisure. If it is not for business reasons inside the government restrictions.

Do we have a credible source for "no known flight plan? It may be in one of the MSM links upthread and I've missed it but all I've read points to this being a loss of comms... as LeftBlank says " it looks like an equipment problem (or finger trouble) leading to a prolonged loss of communication."



Null Orifice 13th Jan 2021 09:59

Another example of 'confused' journalism. Re the Daily Mail story - Learjet? or Global Express?.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-barrier.html


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