Sycamore - I suspect that when your piccy was taken, the 'Tonkas' were still referred to as 'Multi Racial Cost Accumulaters' ;)
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Sycamore, ok Brian where are you ?.
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This is a great picture ! Any thoughts on when this might have been taken ?
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Originally Posted by averow
(Post 10933080)
This is a great picture ! Any thoughts on when this might have been taken ?
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Originally Posted by averow
(Post 10933080)
This is a great picture ! Any thoughts on when this might have been taken ?
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
(Post 10932943)
For a start there would have been half as many aircrew if that picture would have been of my previous aircraft.
As for sense of humour, I guess it’s all subjective. BV PS. Since you asked I’m in this photo somewhere. Can’t remember which one. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4e3c3f70d.jpeg |
Originally Posted by Stuart Sutcliffe
(Post 10933122)
Post #7 quite clearly states "March 1987". It often helps if you read a thread before asking questions? :p
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Picture reversed
I thought something was odd - the picture is flipped. Boz 107 and Skyshadow on wrong stations. Sqn commanders in wrong order. I knew where I was standing and I've swapped wings. :-)
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Interesting to note that they are using a picture of an RAF Tornado to promote next years Cosford airshow! I suppose there's just as much chance of one of them turning up as anything else in the current inventory!
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CJ , it was still `Must refurbish Canberras again` time,and the Jag was still on some French notepaper....
Nav.mentioned below was JC of Chivenor fame..... z2, TRY YOUR OTHER GLASSES...! A tactical Squadron of 16 Fg/Offs, 3 Flt/lts( 1 Nav+1 QHI) and 1 Sqdn.ldr(Boss)...some on leave/r&r ,and 16 aircraft,even the Eng.O was an F/O....I think I had just been promoted to F/O recently.... `393` was a `gunship as well as it could carry 4x SS11 missiles,+2 Bren guns,+whatever you could carry in the cockpit.... Tornados are Whirlwinds ,but we could swing our wings right around..... |
Originally Posted by Sky Sports
(Post 10933147)
Interesting to note that they are using a picture of an RAF Tornado to promote next years Cosford airshow! I suppose there's just as much chance of one of them turning up as anything else in the current inventory!
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I don’t post much and some of the comments here are probably part of the reason.
The photo, or a copy of it, hangs in my study as I’m in it and it is a Wing Photo of part of the RAFG Strike/Attack capability in 1987. The rest were the sqns at Larbruch and Gutersloh, as well all the U.K. based sqns of Buccs, Harriers, Jaguars and the AD sqns. It”s the Bruggen Wing, correctly identified as IX, 14, 17 and 31 Sqns. There are 48 aircraft in the picture, 12 from each Sqn and they were towed there by very proud and conscientious ground crew not wingers who weren’t in it. At the time we were in the frontline of the Cold War and although cold in terms of bullets flying around we took it extremely seriously and as a result of our dedication and, for some, great sacrifices, we won, only to hand the World over to the people who created the current balls up. Some of those photographed didn’t return from what happened 4 years later and we remember them Take the p..s all you like, just make sure that if it’s ever your turn you are up for it. |
Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 10933148)
CJ , it was still `Must refurbish Canberras again` time,and the Jag was still on some French notepaper....
Nav.mentioned below was JC of Chivenor fame..... z2, TRY YOUR OTHER GLASSES...! A tactical Squadron of 16 Fg/Offs, 3 Flt/lts( 1 Nav+1 QHI) and 1 Sqdn.ldr(Boss)...some on leave/r&r ,and 16 aircraft,even the Eng.O was an F/O....I think I had just been promoted to F/O recently.... `393` was a `gunship as well as it could carry 4x SS11 missiles,+2 Bren guns,+whatever you could carry in the cockpit.... Tornados are Whirlwinds ,but we could swing our wings right around..... |
Originally Posted by Odanrot
(Post 10933180)
I don’t post much and some of the comments here are probably part of the reason.
The photo, or a copy of it, hangs in my study as I’m in it and it is a Wing Photo of part of the RAFG Strike/Attack capability in 1987. The rest were the sqns at Larbruch and Gutersloh, as well all the U.K. based sqns of Buccs, Harriers, Jaguars and the AD sqns. It”s the Bruggen Wing, correctly identified as IX, 14, 17 and 31 Sqns. There are 48 aircraft in the picture, 12 from each Sqn and they were towed there by very proud and conscientious ground crew not wingers who weren’t in it. At the time we were in the frontline of the Cold War and although cold in terms of bullets flying around we took it extremely seriously and as a result of our dedication and, for some, great sacrifices, we won, only to hand the World over to the people who created the current balls up. Some of those photographed didn’t return from what happened 4 years later and we remember them Take the p..s all you like, just make sure that if it’s ever your turn you are up for it. |
Originally Posted by Odanrot
(Post 10933180)
... they were towed there by very proud and conscientious ground crew not wingers who weren’t in it.
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Originally Posted by Odanrot
(Post 10933180)
I don’t post much and some of the comments here are probably part of the reason.
The photo, or a copy of it, hangs in my study as I’m in it and it is a Wing Photo of part of the RAFG Strike/Attack capability in 1987. The rest were the sqns at Larbruch and Gutersloh, as well all the U.K. based sqns of Buccs, Harriers, Jaguars and the AD sqns. It”s the Bruggen Wing, correctly identified as IX, 14, 17 and 31 Sqns. There are 48 aircraft in the picture, 12 from each Sqn and they were towed there by very proud and conscientious ground crew not wingers who weren’t in it. At the time we were in the frontline of the Cold War and although cold in terms of bullets flying around we took it extremely seriously and as a result of our dedication and, for some, great sacrifices, we won, only to hand the World over to the people who created the current balls up. Some of those photographed didn’t return from what happened 4 years later and we remember them Take the p..s all you like, just make sure that if it’s ever your turn you are up for it. |
Sycamore - we 'Fling-wing' chaps shouldn't be intruding on 'swing-wing' territory but your mention of JC reminds me that I had to amend an appallingly inaccurate, - in fact, libellous version of JC and his fatal, which appeared in Wikipaedia. I don't know who the original author was, but to have published such a travesty is beyond belief. That really was something to get worked up about!
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https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1e95f4808f.jpg
One of the smaller holes in ZD483, The piece of metal that caused this missed the navigator by inches. The rest of the airframe was pebbledashed badly. Not as bad as its pair ZA403 that had to be abandonned and the crew face the brutality of Sadam. I repaired this hole BTW to get 843 back in the game. Sorry, do its job. I do not talk to all the servicemen that fly and fix. There is banter, but there are people that have not been in the game for a long time and never under the pressures that having hard metal being thrown at them. There are the other interlopers that are not military.. Wrong forum to inject gents. |
Originally Posted by OldLurker
(Post 10932853)
I count 36 aircraft in the photo. Would that have been only one squadron? How many aircrew, and how many ground crew, would have been dedicated to that number of aircraft?
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Originally Posted by OldLurker
(Post 10932853)
I count 36 aircraft in the photo. Would that have been only one squadron? How many aircrew, and how many ground crew, would have been dedicated to that number of aircraft?
The established groundcrew strength per 12-aircraft sqn + 3 x SE Fitt (that belonged to Arm Eng Flt) + 3 x Gen Techs (that belonged to Gen Eng Flt) was around 135. In addition, there was an Army major Ground Liaison Officer (GLO) + Army GLO driver / clerk (l/cpl) + Sqn Admin Off / SQINTO + 3 x PANDA clerks + 3 x AATC (cpl/SAC). |
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