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alfred_the_great 10th Sep 2020 16:23
Originally Posted by sharpend (Post 10882376)
How long before this woke culture does away with ranks and respect for senior personnel. I can see it coming; saluting an officer is demeaning. Glad I left,
"Excuse ranks..."

i mean, the RAF was there decades before "woke-ness".

Herod 10th Sep 2020 17:30
saluting an officer is demeaning.
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Maybe, but saluting the "Queen's Commission" isn't.

downsizer 10th Sep 2020 17:55
Originally Posted by Sky Sports (Post 10882366)
The MOD has got itself into a massive recruitment vicious circle. The more it 'reaches out' to the minority groups the less the majority group feels inclined to join. With less numbers coming from the majority group, the more it has to change itself to attract the minority groups to fill the gaps. And so on and so on.........
You'd know this because you are serving, probably working in recruitment, and are familiar with the actual numbers correct?

Or are you just speculating?

Easy Street 10th Sep 2020 18:42
despite the mandatory inclusiveness training courses, people who held certain views still held them, they simply chose the expected (and obviously expected) answers from the quiz at the end of the training module. I'm not at all sure that this works, regardless of the supposed good intentions.
The MOD's current online D&I training package makes clear that it's permitted to hold prejudiced views, just not to take prejudiced actions or decisions. There has to be such a clause in policy to avoid effectively proscribing certain religious beliefs, but equally it means that what you describe is OK. When advocacy of D&I strays into 'thought police' territory, willingness to listen (and therefore effectiveness) is more likely to fall away.

Finningley Boy 11th Sep 2020 09:12
Originally Posted by fitliker (Post 10882444)
Bring back national service and conscription .


lights blues touch paper and runs :)
Aaah for the days of Edward the VII Smith, Poof 'ouse Richardson, Jock Strap Leckie and Holy Joe Lilly! And Cpl Marsh to make airmen out of 'em!!

FB

RAFEngO74to09 11th Sep 2020 15:45
Originally Posted by Finningley Boy (Post 10882985)
Aaah for the days of Edward the VII Smith, Poof 'ouse Richardson, Jock Strap Leckie and Holy Joe Lilly! And Cpl Marsh to make airmen out of 'em!!

FB
Like this you mean !

Blossy 11th Sep 2020 19:46
Those happy days when battledress was the norm!

West Coast 11th Sep 2020 21:03
Originally Posted by sharpend (Post 10882376)
How long before this woke culture does away with ranks and respect for senior personnel. I can see it coming; saluting an officer is demeaning. Glad I left,
As we used to joke, we don't take orders, we discuss them.

Finningley Boy 12th Sep 2020 10:18
Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09 (Post 10883253)
I remember that as well, remember the Brown Twins?!?!?!?

FB


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