There seems to be much bandying about of the Merits and demerits of these changes. Remember, the bottom line is; dies it produce a better ‘fighting force’?

The final assessment of any military force is carried out by the opponent!

What he said - just because 90% of your organisation thinks something is right doesn't mean it is for the 10%. When that 10% represents 50% of your recruiting pool you should probably think you're doing something wrong.

I viewed the online profiles of several very senior officers and each CV has a statement on diversity, inclusivity and various 'itys'. These seem to go on for ages, often using terms which to me appear meaningless rubbish.

Surely all that is needed is a statement that says something like: 'all personnel are treated equally' end of story.

Old Duffer

Treating all people equally doesn't equal treating all people like white middle age males, nor does it mean treating everyone the same.

Alfred the great,
I take your point but this leads us to dozens if not hundreds of separate ways of handling individuals, many of whom we have no idea of what their actual persona is. I try to treat people as I would hope to be treated and for me (white and elderly) that's as far as I can take it.

O-D

frankly you have to treat individuals as exactly that. Cookie-cutter leadership just isn't good enough.

I think that's it - you have to know your people and understand what is important to them - do that and D&I comes part of normal operations

Waste of time and money.

Dont be a dick, treat everyone as you want to be treated and stop obsessing over any one demographic.

It's ironic that today's view is that we don't want to hurt an individual's feelings, yet at the same time, want them to go out in situations where they could well be killed.

I'm sure it will be a lot of comfort to them that before they die, they knew that their needs were valued and considered...

"could well be killed" and, of course, kill.

Life doesn't stand still.
 

I disagree with the policy, but not because I'm an "older white man."
I disagree with it because if you need training on how to view your fellows in the job, maybe YOU shouldn't be in it.

Served with plenty of lads and lasses of various origin, and alternative lifestyle persuasions (as far back as the 70's). During basic training, in my room of eighteen, we had a lad from Northern Ireland, three Scots, and a lad from St. Kitts.
The bloke from St. Kitts took a lot of stick from the DI staff, but he brushed it off with "I knew I would get it here, but it's better that getting it from a **** who doesn't even know me".

I then worked for a multinational company, and despite the mandatory inclusiveness training courses, people who held certain views still held them, they simply chose the expected (and obviously expected) answers from the quiz at the end of the training module. I'm not at all sure that this works, regardless of the supposed good intentions.

It sounds as though you consider yourself as the one demographic.
It is far better to consider how you don't want to be treated and don't treat others that way. I know it sounds pedantic, but it isn't. It is far more logical when you realise that not everyone is like you.

One more post before I get myself into trouble.
If you think things are better these days, you are correct.
If you think we don't have a lot to do still, you are incorrect.
Many of you know me personally. I'm not woke, I'm quite outspoken and I'm certainly not Mr PC.
Embrace yourself in this, the majority is good stuff, if someone like me supports it, there may just be a point to it.
I'm not bothered if anyone disagrees with me, its a still a free country.

literally no idea what you are trying to say.....

Just in case I confused you, I meant, just be nice to EVERYONE until they give you reason to dislike them based on their character and actions.

Everyone regardless of the latest wank-word for the week deserves to be treated with dignity and not discriminated against.

OK I'll try again. It's an easy concept that predates Christianity but does require a bit of effort and practice, since you have to think about other people and realise that not everyone is like you.

Not everyone likes nor wants to be treated in the same way you want to be treated. To believe so puts you and your views centre stage.
Think of how you don't want to be treated and then try hard not to treat anyone else that way. It is not easy because you have to be able to put yourself in the other person's shoes and think about how they will react.

Beardy, what are you on about?

"Think about how you don't want to be treated and try hard not to treat anyone that way". So you can't be nice to someone because they might not like it?, but similarly, they might not like the way you don't want to be treated. That seems to me to be still putting yourself centre stage...

You misunderstand, it is not necessarily about being 'nice'. What may be and acceptable to you may not be nor acceptable to the person that you are communicating with and vice versa. You have to be aware of what they consider acceptable behaviour. For example blasphemy may acceptable to an atheist but not a theist, Marriage to a 14 year old may not be acceptable to you, but is in Alabama, New Hampshire etc.. (subject to court orders) So an off the cuff remark concerning God or child brides could cause offence to some. The use of the 'N' word is acceptable in some social groups, but not in others There are many other examples. Your difficulty is determining which, that requires education, thought and understanding.

Good, glad you got the point. If you don't like being insulted then it's best not to insult somebody else, because they may not like it either. The idea is that you consider what you don't want to happen to you and make sure you don't make same thing happen to somebody else.

The MOD has got itself into a massive recruitment vicious circle. The more it 'reaches out' to the minority groups the less the majority group feels inclined to join. With less numbers coming from the majority group, the more it has to change itself to attract the minority groups to fill the gaps. And so on and so on.........

How long before this woke culture does away with ranks and respect for senior personnel. I can see it coming; saluting an officer is demeaning. Glad I left,

Bring back national service and conscription .


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