HMS Queen Elizabeth to exercise with a full deck
2 Squadrons of F-35 ( One US Marines) and a full heli complement
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-...-for-exercise/ |
There once was a time when, with all due respect, there would have been insufficient space for more than a couple of visiting, non-Brit, aircraft on any of our carriers !! Days long gone, I guess!!
Bill |
USMC F-35s due at Marham this evening, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 10878251)
USMC F-35s due at Marham this evening, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Tashengurt
(Post 10878287)
I think they arrived yesterday?
cheers https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....45aca3283.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cf0aa696e.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b94dae8ee.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e44098c25.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....90742bebe.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2da207a87.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....13dc8b5b1.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....aea085fe8.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f7c3673be.jpeg |
Six cabs from 820 NAS embarked Thursday night, ship sails 15:30 Monday.
CU going to be mighty quiet for a bit.... |
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/de...ailing-2974985
More crew on HMS Queen Elizabeth test positive for Covid-19 ahead of planned Friday sailing |
Originally Posted by Not_a_boffin
(Post 10878516)
Six cabs from 820 NAS embarked Thursday night, ship sails 15:30 Monday.
CU going to be mighty quiet for a bit.... |
They landed on while pierside. SOP would be to embark once at sea, but then it's all a tad odd at the minute with C-19 etc. Given she's still alongside (leaving over this weekend) they've had some time to fettle the cabs.
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Originally Posted by sandiego89
(Post 10887929)
Curious, do you know if 820 landed on the ship while it was pierside? Would have thought they would fly out while the ship was at sea.
There are two 824 and four 820 Merlins plus air and ground crew according to Cornwall live. Trust the RN photographer doesn't mind me pinching this. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bf70bbf83d.jpg (Crossed with N_a_B) |
Tzu-hsi used to run China from behind a curtain.
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Bamboo?............
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Being as matelot officers are whacked on the head with mallet to get them to sea,this shouldn’t be at all surprising.
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In the old days, 'twas not unusual to find a wren behind a curtain.
Oops, sorry. |
I notice some of the American "Leatherneck" F-35s have vivid colour markings. I had resigned myself to the belief, given that all F-35s A, B and C are all done up in various shades of Grey, including service and unit markings, that this kind of freedom of expression was deemed not suitable perhaps for operational reasons?
FB |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10887960)
Anything |Navy is odd, its just the way they are, here is another Navy officer drawing the curtains on her career..
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/de...ce=parsely-api Jack |
Interesting photograph in Telegraph of sailors on deck of carrier as, I imagine, she finally left Portsmouth with a full deck. Barely a second required for assessment of photograph.
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Originally Posted by JENKINS
(Post 10890438)
Interesting photograph in Telegraph of sailors on deck of carrier as, I imagine, she finally left Portsmouth with a full deck. Barely a second required for assessment of photograph.
In the old days, the Invincible class CVS normally operated nine ASW Sea Kings, but one of these was kept at readiness for SAR, and they also had to do things like VERTREP. After 2000, the Sea Kings were replaced by Merlins, with a Sea King doing utility and SAR tasks. These days many of the SAR and utility taskings can be done by embarked Jungly HC4s, leaving the Merlin HM2 to concentrate on ASW. It has a greater range and endurance (five hours) than the old Sea King (about four hours) or indeed other current ASW helicopter types such as the MH-60R or the NH90. Additionally the carrier will direct the helicopters carried by other task group ships - including more Merlins. These two snippets from a recent discussion with the Commons' committee may interest you: |
Yes, I believe she left around 1600 BST yesterday squeezing through the harbour entrance with six Merlins on deck. So not strictly a full deck but I am sure Procedure Alpha will have been observed.
@ShaunRoster's drone camera video of departure can be seen on his twitter page or @HMSQNLZ Lightning (IIs) left RAF Marham today Lightning jets take off from RAF Marham to join HMS Queen Elizabeth for major exercise |
My assessment earlier concerned the uniform and the stance of the 'sailors' photographed.
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Originally Posted by JENKINS
(Post 10891014)
My assessment earlier concerned the uniform and the stance of the 'sailors' photographed.
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Fourteen jets and a couple of helos on deck and you run out of space fairly quickly. There's a reason she's a biggun..... |
Shame it is not an air wing. Of British aircraft. When will we be getting what we wanted to order?
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Originally Posted by Cat Techie
(Post 10891310)
Shame it is not an air wing. Of British aircraft. When will we be getting what we wanted to order?
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
(Post 10889398)
So very unlike you to make such a graceless post, Nutty, quite apart from the fact that your comment is totally unconnected to the thread - I'm genuinely surprised at you and seriously suggest you reconsider its inclusion.
Jack Nutty's post is on topic and makes perfect sense, Jack. It's all about whether or not the Navy are playing with a full deck. |
Those Yanks need to guard their aircraft while on a British carrier. I once spent an evening with an ex US Marine Phantom pilot who once landed on a British carrier because of a problem. As you can imagine he was well entertained in a fashion not possible on US ships and, the next morning, found that his aircraft had been suitably drafted into the Royal Navy.
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
(Post 10889398)
So very unlike you to make such a graceless post, Nutty, quite apart from the fact that your comment is totally unconnected to the thread - I'm genuinely surprised at you and seriously suggest you reconsider its inclusion.
Jack
Originally Posted by Minnie Burner
(Post 10891493)
Nutty's post is on topic and makes perfect sense, Jack. It's all about whether or not the Navy are playing with a full deck.
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/raf-officer-faces-court-martial-2967101? |
Apologies Jack, just saw your post and agree, a bit of drift there...... so have removed it. :)
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10891702)
Apologies Jack, just saw your post and agree, a bit of drift there...... so have removed it. :)
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Originally Posted by pulse1
(Post 10891518)
Those Yanks need to guard their aircraft while on a British carrier. I once spent an evening with an ex US Marine Phantom pilot who once landed on a British carrier because of a problem. As you can imagine he was well entertained in a fashion not possible on US ships and, the next morning, found that his aircraft had been suitably drafted into the Royal Navy.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....510fa7f481.jpg |
All is fair in love and cross decking,
I'm sure someone willl be along shortly with photos of USN altered FG1s. ;) (please) |
1976
I'm sure many will remember 1976 when the USN F4s had 1776 -1976 proudly emblazoned on their fins (vertical stabilisers - OK?)
892's F4s had 876-1976 on theirs. (about the time King Alf started the Navy, no not 892, Brian) This was not understood by the cousins. |
Originally Posted by SLXOwft
(Post 10891842)
All is fair in love and cross decking,
I'm sure someone willl be along shortly with photos of USN altered FG1s. ;) (please) Ot the Tornado (I think) that left a sleepy desert USAF base in Nevada with some new art on it. |
Originally Posted by SLXOwft
(Post 10891842)
All is fair in love and cross decking,
I'm sure someone willl be along shortly with photos of USN altered FG1s. ;) (please) https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6712f7616a.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c63e1b1bda.jpg |
Originally Posted by twothree
(Post 10891763)
We were operating in the Med and cross-decked with USS Forrestal, but like all good things it came to an end and we brought our toys home to Mother and tried sending theirs back. Unfortunately 207 repeatedly went U/S and things became dire as we were due into Grand Harbour where Dom Mintoff, Malta's PM, had declared all things military associated with the USA to be unwelcome. A last attempt to launch 207 failed so it was rapidly dispatched to the lower hangar before we entered harbour. All was well, and the US Marine crew thoroughly enjoyed the benefits of being on a warship which allowed grown men to consume alcohol. After the usual Cocker's P, visits from local dignitaries, etc, it was deemed safe to bring 207 up from the Buccaneer hangar into the upper hangar where the 892NAS team could work on the snags. Somewhere along the way the odd 892 sticker zaps became a better idea of a complete repaint on the fin. This became quite handy when ground runs were required, as all USMC markings were covered with brown paper and the tail seemed quite enough to allow runs on deck, noise to Valletta residents notwithstanding. Came time to leave harbour and the first call was to Flying Stations, launch the VMFA-531 F4 regardless of servicability. Off it went back to Forrestal where Cdr Bill Quirk, CO of 531, was so taken with the zap that he kept it all the way home and launched to lead his squadron with one of the best zaps of its time :ok: A few more images, including one when I went over to Forrestal to pick up our maintenance guys and return (some) of theirs! https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....faf2de3194.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....70cb4d90b9.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....da021566dc.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4675b137fc.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f5ebc2c2b1.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f6e825fc1e.jpg |
Great story + pics John! :ok:
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A CAG of 14 jets plus some helos is not much compared to 60+ cabs on USN or even the old RN. Why are they saying its a big fleet then?
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend
(Post 10892212)
A CAG of 14 jets plus some helos is not much compared to 60+ cabs on USN or even the old RN. Why are they saying its a big fleet then?
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Originally Posted by John Eacott
(Post 10891994)
One of a series of photos I took, so here's the dit :cool:
We were operating in the Med and cross-decked with USS Forrestal, but like all good things it came to an end and we brought our toys home to Mother and tried sending theirs back. Unfortunately 207 repeatedly went U/S and things became dire as we were due into Grand Harbour where Dom Mintoff, Malta's PM, had declared all things military associated with the USA to be unwelcome. A last attempt to launch 207 failed so it was rapidly dispatched to the lower hangar before we entered harbour. All was well, and the US Marine crew thoroughly enjoyed the benefits of being on a warship which allowed grown men to consume alcohol. After the usual Cocker's P, visits from local dignitaries, etc, it was deemed safe to bring 207 up from the Buccaneer hangar into the upper hangar where the 892NAS team could work on the snags. Somewhere along the way the odd 892 sticker zaps became a better idea of a complete repaint on the fin. This became quite handy when ground runs were required, as all USMC markings were covered with brown paper and the tail seemed quite enough to allow runs on deck, noise to Valletta residents notwithstanding. Came time to leave harbour and the first call was to Flying Stations, launch the VMFA-531 F4 regardless of servicability. Off it went back to Forrestal where Cdr Bill Quirk, CO of 531, was so taken with the zap that he kept it all the way home and launched to lead his squadron with one of the best zaps of its time :ok: A few more images, including one when I went over to Forrestal to pick up our maintenance guys and return (some) of theirs! https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....faf2de3194.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....70cb4d90b9.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....da021566dc.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4675b137fc.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f5ebc2c2b1.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f6e825fc1e.jpg There were hangars on two decks ? |
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