Originally Posted by LateArmLive
(Post 11158039)
It would be even brighter with a purchase of F35A. 44 B models aren't enough to be worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by golder
(Post 11158056)
They may be waiting for block 4 hardware.
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Do be serious, we are talking the U.K. plc here, I’m still surprised they didn’t try to re-engine it. ;)
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11158058)
Do be serious, we are talking the U.K. plc here, I’m still surprised they didn’t try to re-engine it. ;)
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Originally Posted by Navaleye
(Post 11158023)
The F35 is the only way to go now for most nations. Typhoon and Rafale are obsolete and going out of production. For the UK the future is bright. It's F35b
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Originally Posted by Buster15
(Post 11158716)
I thought that Rafale had just got an order for 80 jets.
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Originally Posted by Buster15
(Post 11158716)
I thought that Rafale had just got an order for 80 jets. Shame that Typhoon had not sold a lot better. But it is pretty expensive, primarily because of the 4 nation consortium.
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Originally Posted by golder
(Post 11158887)
The F-35 is built in many states and nations. It isn't the reason the EF is expensive. Rafale in built in one and is expensive.
However, I was not suggesting that it is the only reason why it is so expensive. Just one of them. An example is that when bidding for an export sale, all 4 nations have to work on their own supply and support costs individually, then submit them to EF who coordinate the final submission. Very much doubt that is the case for Rafale for example. F35 price is a function of the large number of units produced. |
Originally Posted by Buster15
(Post 11159058)
Both F35 and Rafale only have one final production build line. EF has 4, which I do know adds to the unit cost. Duplication of expensive resources.
However, I was not suggesting that it is the only reason why it is so expensive. Just one of them. |
Originally Posted by Buster15
(Post 11159058)
Both F35 and Rafale only have one final production build line. EF has 4, which I do know adds to the unit cost. Duplication of expensive resources.
However, I was not suggesting that it is the only reason why it is so expensive. Just one of them. An example is that when bidding for an export sale, all 4 nations have to work on their own supply and support costs individually, then submit them to EF who coordinate the final submission. Very much doubt that is the case for Rafale for example. F35 price is a function of the large number of units produced. |
Originally Posted by golder
(Post 11159077)
Do you want to count the F-35 production lines again? I'll start you off in the EU with Italy.
So, that's 3 so far. |
Originally Posted by GeeRam
(Post 11159125)
Plus Japan assemble their own A's IIRC.
So, that's 3 so far. I thought that the Italian FACO was only for repairs. And was not aware that Japan had a production build line. So thank you for your update. |
Correction accepted. I thought that the Italian FACO was only for repairs. And was not aware that Japan had a production build line. So thank you for your update. The Japanese were back and forth for a while about where their F-35s would be built, but I wasn't aware that any had actually rolled off the line at the country's FACO. I thought that was being used as an MRO facility, but standing by to be corrected. |
Mystery customer
Any guesses?
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...he-stealth-jet I have had a cursory look at the dsca.mil to assertain which one of the new customers it could be? https://www.dsca.mil/search/node?keys=f-35 Cheers |
Originally Posted by chopper2004
(Post 11162828)
Israeli PM had a clandestine visit to singapore in october |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11162832)
Smart money is saying singapore. Singapore has some F-35B's coming, the rumor is a its study to see about putting isreali software and systems in the singaporian B models
Israeli PM had a clandestine visit to singapore in october |
Originally Posted by golder
(Post 11162845)
Israeli stuff is plug and play. It has already been incorporated and shouldn't need to be redone.
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Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11162848)
Firstly I dont believe it is all plug and play, the intial plan was but the US relented and gave them access to the core operating system to put in their electronics, secondly singapore is getting B models and while the ADIR's are based on A models
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Thailand next?
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South Korean F-35 Conducts Emergency ‘Belly Landing’ 04 Jan 2022 Greg Hadley
https://www.airforcemag.com/south-ko...belly-landing/ "A South Korean air force F-35 pilot was forced to make an emergency “belly landing” but managed to escape unharmed Jan. 4, according to multiple media reports. The incident was caused by “avionic system issues,” South Korean air force officials told news agency Yonhap, which caused the landing gear to malfunction and resulted in the pilot landing on a runway with the gear up. Before the landing, a fire engine deployed a special foam on the runway, “which prevented the jet’s fuselage from sustaining any serious damage,” officials added. The full extent of the damage has not been reported...." |
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