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oldmansquipper 1st Feb 2020 22:12

Boss Sacked for low flying?
 
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/vmfa...down-ceremony/

could have flown under a bridge, I guess...

SASless 2nd Feb 2020 01:42

The Golden Rule is simple....."One Aw Crap! wipes out a thousand Attaboys!".:ugh:

767__FO 2nd Feb 2020 04:37


Wasn't that low.

megan 2nd Feb 2020 05:51

I hope he got lower than that when he landed. Some one up the chain is having a lend, surely, what was the briefed fly past height, 45,000? Downwind circuit is flown at 600 feet.

farefield 2nd Feb 2020 07:08

Seriously? For that?

ORAC 2nd Feb 2020 07:27

He wasn’t even the PIC, he was the GIB......

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...quadron-fired/

KiloB 2nd Feb 2020 07:52

For some reason the old classic:
“infamy, infamy, everyone’s got it in-for-me” comes to mind.
There has to be more to this story than that.

Easy Street 2nd Feb 2020 08:14


Originally Posted by farefield (Post 10677517)
Seriously? For that?

The video does indeed show a ‘pretty tame’ flypast but if the authorisation was only for an ‘exceptionally tame’ flypast then the crew is going to be in trouble, whoever they are. It’s a question of discipline and orderly conduct, not safety, and that is a very difficult position for a subordinate commander to wind up in (whether pilot or WSO is, in this situation, totally irrelevant). The time to challenge overly-restrictive parameters is before a sortie, not during or after.

That said, I do lament the attitude to flypasts of a generation of senior commanders who would routinely have given ‘spirited’ performances in their squadron flying days. I am not suggesting carte blanche be given to unsafe acts, but there is nothing unsafe about flying over one’s own airfield at heights and speeds which would be perfectly acceptable on a weapons range or in a low flying training area.

But, sadly, I also recognise that there is a question of trust. If crews could be trusted to stick to their authorisations then maybe senior commanders might take a bit more risk in setting parameters...



ShyTorque 2nd Feb 2020 08:34

I get dizzy if I fly that high.....

weemonkey 2nd Feb 2020 09:05


Originally Posted by KiloB (Post 10677538)
For some reason the old classic:
“infamy, infamy, everyone’s got it in-for-me” comes to mind.
There has to be more to this story than that.

I concur in full.

charliegolf 2nd Feb 2020 09:16

Was he authed? Was it the old, 'Never-ask-a-question-if-you-won't-like-the-answer' sitch, where he was clearly told not to do something and did it anyway?

CG

Edit: missed EasyStreet's comment.

fdr 2nd Feb 2020 12:45


Originally Posted by farefield (Post 10677517)
Seriously? For that?

Concur. There has to be another video somewhere, involving a farm Animal. That doesn't count as low flying even under the FARs unless there is some magic mirror involved.

That is just embarrassing.

MFC_Fly 2nd Feb 2020 14:51

I thought he was sacked for low flying...

I was expecting something more like this...


Or this...


ORAC 2nd Feb 2020 15:04


Two's in 2nd Feb 2020 15:43

The CO being held to the very same standards and discipline that he is supposed to be ingraining within his unit seems to be an alien concept for some on here.

Tankertrashnav 2nd Feb 2020 15:51

All very amusing until you kill someone, as in the C130 at South Cerney. As someone mentioned above - that was an "aww ****" - not an "attaboy!" moment.

teeteringhead 2nd Feb 2020 16:31


I get dizzy if I fly that high.....
Yup Shy - the nose bleeds above 1500 ft.

Arfur Dent 2nd Feb 2020 17:14

That is the highest "low pass" I have ever seen.
He cannot have (seriously) been fired for that????????

Less Hair 2nd Feb 2020 17:52

Did he boom someone?

Compass Call 2nd Feb 2020 18:21

The jags in Oman considered it low flying when you dented the roof of a Toyota car!!!


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