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Originally Posted by Timelord
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That Swinderby Vulcan photo may be authentic. There certainly WAS a Vulcan flypast at a Swinderby passing out parade that created a good deal of, er, comment!
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10677987)
At Linton-on-Ouse, RAF BFTS graduation days used to be allowed a traditional "ring around the operational squadrons in UK and get what you can get to fly by" airshow.
Not surprisingly, these began to get a bit extreme as pilots all tried to outdo the previous one in whatever way they could. During my time there in the late 1970s, the Chief Instructor, a Wing Commander, had his office on the first floor at the front of the hangar facing ATC, looking out over the airfield. On the morning of a graduation, a Buccaneer flew past his window at such a low altitude, at almost 90 degrees AOB as it pulled around the corner of the hangar, all the Wingco saw was the tops of the crew's helmets. The left wingtip must have been almost scraping the peri track! The CI's PA (Sgt Gunn?) was just bringing in a tray of coffees and he said he was so surprised by the sight and noise of the Bucc that he almost threw the lot over the CI. Unofficial graduation flybys were banned from that moment; in reflection probably a very good thing! |
Is it my imagination, or are the Americans seriously more robust than the RAF in such cases?
Are there similar RAF (or indeed RN/Army) cases that could be revealed? Or are the Americans just trying to keep a genie in the bottle? |
I was on the parade square that day ! Memorable............ This is the sanitised video for sure.
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10678561)
I was shown that video during the flying supervisors’ course. Unfortunately, I think there’s a bit missing from the above version; the really exciting bit isn’t shown.
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Originally Posted by Dominator2
(Post 10678230)
Has anyone got a copy of the video from Tommy's Flypast at Cranwell. It must rate as one of the most outrageous in recent times in front of ***Officers?
The worrying thing is that one is not too sure just how much "in control" he was? Opinions anyone? |
Not a display flight , but I remember reading about a headless tractor driver found in a field in the north York’s area in the 50s / 60s .
I think the aircraft involved was a jet provost . |
Originally Posted by Stretchwell
(Post 10678631)
I was on the parade square that day ! Memorable............ This is the sanitised version of the video for sure.
The video definitely omits the really fun part of the flypast. Also, bear in mind that as the weather was pretty gusty that day, we had chin-straps on and there was still around a 20% hat loss. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....156a179467.jpg |
Originally Posted by Pauljw
(Post 10678720)
Not a display flight , but I remember reading about a headless tractor driver found in a field in the north York’s area in the 50s / 60s .
I think the aircraft involved was a jet provost . T3, powered by the Viper 102, and this entered service with No. 2 FTS, located at RAF Syerston, during June 1959, Suggests 1960s. |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10678561)
I was shown that video during the flying supervisors’ course. Unfortunately, I think there’s a bit missing from the above version; the really exciting bit isn’t shown.
Wasn't 72' a.g.l. the assessed minimum height? |
Of course, those lucky enough to have served at MPA will have witnessed a number of "flypasts".
Those in the know will be aware of Exercise Fiery Cross. Although there were set limitations on speed and MSD, they were rarely abided by. The competition between the fighter crews and the Rapier crews to prove who was "the most competent" was extremely important. On one of these exercises the OC was flying in the RCP with a young, and keen to impress, 1st tourist pilot. Unfortunately, over exuberance got the better. Full AB in the Tornado F3 at low level made it go very fast!! Overflight of the Fire Section at "about" 100 feet and at very high speed caused the roof to fail. I believe that the OC may have received a stern talking to, as did the pilot, but no one lost their jobs over this unfortunate incident!! |
Gives one a warm fuzzy to know our pilots can do things wrong much better than American pilots- respect!:D
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
(Post 10679058)
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Anyone care to speculate on the height of the Swinderby Vulcan flyby? Looks awfully low to the untrained eye.
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Once they get below tower height..... and you look down on the pilot.... they're low...
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Looking down?
Nobody looks down on pilots.
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Lightning photo at Akronelli….?
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F4 From the tower at AKR. Just another day on APC
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c96d7c8142.jpg Operation BlockOff |
A remembrance of the infamous U.S. Air Force Academy Thud flyby in 1968 from the Smithsonian's Air and Space magazine.
With a Loud KABOOM, an F-105 Upstaged Our Air Force GraduationNo one from the Cadet Class of 1968 will forget the day.https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/3jutX...f105d_live.jpgThe Mach 2, 25-ton F-105 could create an enormous sonic boom. During the Vietnam War, the fighter-bomber flew dangerous missions and suffered heavy losses. (USAF)By Darrel Whitcomb Air & Space Magazine December 2019 In May 1968, the Vietnam War was at its peak. Our nation’s newest service school, the Air Force Academy, where I was completing my third year of study, was only 14 years old at the time but already had many graduates in combat. To honor the Academy, the United States Air Force sent a decommissioned Republic F-105 Thunderchief—a “Thud,” in USAF language—to be placed on permanent display. A dedication ceremony was scheduled for May 31—the first day of graduation-week festivities for the class of 1968. The academy’s superintendent, (then) Lieutenant General Thomas S. Moorman Jr. would speak, as would Major General George Simler, a former F-105 wing commander, and Donald Strait, an executive with Republic Aviation, which built the F-105. After their remarks, four Thuds from McConnell Air Force Base in Kansas would perform a fly-by. We occasionally saw individual aircraft fly over, but a formation flight would be a rare thing to witness. When the appointed day arrived, the assembly crackled with anticipation. We were too busy craning our necks to see the Thuds to pay much attention to the speakers. The Master of Ceremonies got our attention, though, when he told us the flight was being led by Lieutenant Colonel James “Black Matt” Matthews, a veteran of dozens of F-105 combat missions. We soon spotted the flight of four F-105s in a holding pattern off to the east. Then we saw them turn toward us and take up a diamond formation. We heard their J75 turbojets scream as they flew northward over Mitchell Hall, the air gardens, and Vandenberg Hall. The F-105 is a beast of an aircraft, a fighter-bomber built for low altitude, high-speed operations. The four Thuds streaked by at what must have been 500 miles per hour. I’ve never forgotten the whistling sound that announced their passing. Though we were in formation, many cadets yelled and whistled at the passing jets, a breach of discipline our superiors were kind enough to overlook. We expected the formation to recede into the eastern horizon, back to Kansas. But instead they turned south and took up trail spacing. They were lining up to make individual passes! I could clearly see the lead aircraft turn north. This time though, I could not hear its engine. I noticed a weird quality of light in the air around the Thud. I didn’t know what that meant, but a cadet in the next rank, an aeronautical engineering major, obviously did. I heard him mutter “Oh, ****,” as he clapped his hands over his ears. The lead aircraft silently streaked by. Then the air around us seemed to shimmer, and we heard and felt the KABOOOOOM as the shock wave swept over us. The F-105 had broken the sound barrier just before passing over our heads. As the shock wore off, a few cadets began to clap and cheer, but that festive sound was quickly silenced by the Ka-pow! Ka-pow! Ka-pow! of windows shattering in Vandenberg Hall. General Moorman was purple with rage. The commandant, Brigadier General Robin Olds, was apoplectic. Only when we heard them summoning ambulances did we realize people had been seriously injured by the flying glass. My squadron was ordered into the dining hall, the south wall of which was floor-to-ceiling glass. Or rather it had been, moments earlier. Everything—the floor, the tables, the plates, and yes, the food—was now covered with broken glass. We would not be having lunch that afternoon. We later learned that 15 people had been cut by flying glass. One officer was hospitalized for several weeks. Matthews was grounded and his aircraft inspected for defects. A board of inquiry determined that many were to blame for the incident. While they found no problem with Matthews’ F-105, rumors persisted that its airspeed indicator system had a “glitch” that improperly indicated the true airspeed as it approached the speed of sound. Matthews had broken numerous regulations, but his flight status was soon restored. The Vietnam War consumed F-105 pilots very quickly, and he was needed to train replacements. News coverage of the incident was mostly unflattering to the Academy and the service. Fair enough. Nothing could justify so needlessly dangerous a stunt. But that demonstration of raw power made a deep and lasting impression on many of us young cadets. At a time when our nation was at war, it clearly reminded us of our purpose: We were training to be warriors, just like Jim Matthews. One of my classmates, Scott Sonnenberg, wrote of the fly-by years later: “In one split second, a 30-year Air Force career was born. I don’t know how many other cadets were similarly affected, but all those windows broken may have been one of the best investments the Air Force has made in recruitment and retention.” I believe most cadets from the classes of 1968 to 1971 who witnessed that event would agree. Many of us went on to serve in the war and in Air Force careers; 31 of the cadets who watched those Thuds would die in the Vietnam conflict. Their names are chiseled on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, along with 121 other Air Force Academy graduates and 58,000 of our countrymen. For the rest of us, that fly-by lives on in our memories and in Academy lore. It was a day we will never forget. |
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