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NutLoose 24th Jan 2020 09:17

Marshalls of Cambridge rules out move to Duxford
 
It leaves Wyton and Cranfield as their options now. I know the distance etc but you would have thought originally somewhere like St Athan would have been ideal.

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co....Wy843A083epQZM

Asturias56 24th Jan 2020 09:19

why not Prestwick? They'd get a big subsidy from the Scot nats....................

mmitch 24th Jan 2020 10:01

What about Mildenhall? Near Cambridge and possibly available in 2024?
mmmitch.

Gerry Mobbs 24th Jan 2020 14:07

Waterbeach was available.In the 50s they used us acouple of times.

golfbananajam 24th Jan 2020 15:40

Forgive my ignorance but why the need for a no fly zone? When I've flown into Cambridge (albeit only twice in the dim and distant) I don't recall there being a no fly zone then.

skua 24th Jan 2020 15:48

Mildenhall no longer an option, I am told.

just another jocky 24th Jan 2020 19:03

Wyton sold.

Which airfield is SW of Duxford?

...and had identified a potential site to the south-west of the existing airfield at Duxford


Miles Magister 24th Jan 2020 19:17

Why do you all think they need to move Marshall's of Cambridge to another airfield?

heights good 24th Jan 2020 19:26


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10670197)
It leaves Wyton and Cranfield as their options now. I know the distance etc but you would have thought originally somewhere like St Athan would have been ideal.

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co....Wy843A083epQZM

Wyton had a fence down the middle of the runway the last time I flew over and I believe the half outside said fence will shortly be houses, if not already!

N707ZS 24th Jan 2020 19:30

Teesside would be perfect I am sure the Mayor would be willing to find cash.

Lima Juliet 24th Jan 2020 19:46

Houses on Wyton’s airfield was dropped about 2 years ago - https://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/raf...enda-1-5264495

Mildenhall to close some time after 2024 (although rumours are it won’t at all): https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/longer-r...hall-1-5832485

medod 24th Jan 2020 19:54


Originally Posted by golfbananajam (Post 10670486)
Forgive my ignorance but why the need for a no fly zone? When I've flown into Cambridge (albeit only twice in the dim and distant) I don't recall there being a no fly zone then.

I think it's in the terms that, at Duxford the Marshalls facilities would be designated "no over-flight" zones for airshows, which would cripple display flying at Duxford.

Vendee 24th Jan 2020 20:11


Originally Posted by Miles Magister (Post 10670621)
Why do you all think they need to move Marshall's of Cambridge to another airfield?

If you click the link in the first post you will see:-

"The company intends to move out of Cambridge by 2030 in order to continue its growth
Moving out will unlock land in the east of Cambridge for up to 12,000 homes and commercial space."

Fareastdriver 24th Jan 2020 20:42


"The company intends to move out of Cambridge by 2030 in order to continue its growth
Moving out will unlock land in the east of Cambridge for up to 12,000 homes and commercial space."
The 'growth' will come from the money they trouser selling the airfield for housing.

Ideal for commuting to the Smoke.

NutLoose 24th Jan 2020 21:07


Originally Posted by medod (Post 10670651)
I think it's in the terms that, at Duxford the Marshalls facilities would be designated "no over-flight" zones for airshows, which would cripple display flying at Duxford.


Yes I think that's probably it, it would be classified as a built up area, the same reasoning is making this years Victory Show at Cosby sadly the last as the villages latest development is encroaching the display area.

Martin the Martian 24th Jan 2020 21:43

I really don't understand why they ever contemplated Duxford in the first place. I like to think that IWM told them to get on their bike when they were approached them.

Plenty of space down here at Newquay.

aerobelly 24th Jan 2020 22:20


Originally Posted by medod (Post 10670651)
I think it's in the terms that, at Duxford the Marshalls facilities would be designated "no over-flight" zones for airshows, which would cripple display flying at Duxford.

Possibly in someone else's legal terms, but Marshalls did put on a superb airshow for their own airfield and over half the city of Cambridge for their 100th anniversary. Right over their hangers, and even a Hunter at not many feet over the military vehicle workshops IIRC. XH558's departure must have made domestic windows rattle for a good portion of the city too.

With 4,000 employees to either relocate or each to face a long drive to work there is no obvious option. (Drive? Cambridgeshire suffers a Stagecoach near-monopoly on bus services. They're cr*p once outside the city.)

'a

Asturias56 25th Jan 2020 08:48

Move the lot to the Northern Powerhouse - and get a £1Bn grant to do it..................

ShyTorque 25th Jan 2020 09:00

Linton-on-Ouse will soon be vacant....

Auxtank 25th Jan 2020 10:45


Originally Posted by just another jocky (Post 10670614)
Wyton sold.

Which airfield is SW of Duxford?

Surely not Fowlmere?


JEM60 25th Jan 2020 10:50

Aerobelly.VulcanXH 558 was refurbished at Bruntingthorpe and made it's first post-restoration flight from there. If I remember rightly some Marshall staff travelled to and fro. It was never on the ground at Cambridge.

spekesoftly 25th Jan 2020 11:20

JEM60,

Perhaps aerobelly was referring to XH558's departure from Marshalls' 100th Anniversary airshow, and not an actual take-off from the runway at Cambridge ?

SpringHeeledJack 25th Jan 2020 11:46

How about Woodford, large skilled workforce nearby ? Oh, wait..... :-)

aw ditor 25th Jan 2020 15:08

Heights Good
New housing application still with the District Cooncil', and is well off airfield towards Houghton. For what its worth, local rumour hath it that MOD are having a re-think on the "closure" of the R/W.

A/D.

N707ZS 25th Jan 2020 15:50


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10671041)
Move the lot to the Northern Powerhouse - and get a £1Bn grant to do it..................

Teesside it is then, we already have £0.5Bn in the pot.

Momoe 26th Jan 2020 08:26

Why not Alconbury, it's convenient for travelling.

chopper2004 26th Jan 2020 08:33


Originally Posted by Momoe (Post 10671858)
Why not Alconbury, it's convenient for travelling.

Oh I wish .....sadly U&C / Savils who own it already have created a mini village, industrial estate ....on the former Airfield side called Alconbury Weald.

half the runway has construction stuff buildings etc. , the other half is still intact

There was a plan to turn it into a cargo hub for the likes of Fedex and DHl after the Airfield side handed back to MoD and sold off back in the 95/96. And of cerise then Br we’re gonna finance the development of freight terminal to support this.p but then they pulled out, which did not help the situ. Coupled with some locals opposition it went no go.

cheers

Harry Wayfarers 27th Jan 2020 01:45

Since the M11 was built Duxford doesn't have the runway length, rather than expanding their business they would be restricting their business.

Apparently Wethersfield airfield might be for sale and available

andrewn 27th Jan 2020 07:18


Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers (Post 10672542)
Apparently Wethersfield airfield might be for sale and available

yes, to property developers for housing! Next....

golfbananajam 27th Jan 2020 08:49


Originally Posted by medod (Post 10670651)
I think it's in the terms that, at Duxford the Marshalls facilities would be designated "no over-flight" zones for airshows, which would cripple display flying at Duxford.


Thanks, that makes sense now.

Nantucket Sleighride 27th Jan 2020 10:46

surprised they havent looked at a corner of Thurleigh, huge space still available if you can shift all the old motors

potter_bb 27th Jan 2020 11:03

Horses
 

Originally Posted by Nantucket Sleighride (Post 10672829)
surprised they havent looked at a corner of Thurleigh, huge space still available if you can shift all the old motors

While I'd love to see the air around where I live full of aircraft again (our neighbour has some cracking stories of when RAE Bedford was open), the area is now home to some high profile equestrian centres. I suspect that these would put up a strong and successful fight against re-opening Thurleigh beyond its current very limited use - the noise abatement procedures are already highly restrictive.

andrewn 27th Jan 2020 13:17


Originally Posted by chopper2004 (Post 10671865)
Oh I wish .....sadly U&C / Savils who own it already have created a mini village, industrial estate ....on the former Airfield side called Alconbury Weald.

half the runway has construction stuff buildings etc. , the other half is still intact

There was a plan to turn it into a cargo hub for the likes of Fedex and DHl after the Airfield side handed back to MoD and sold off back in the 95/96. And of cerise then Br we’re gonna finance the development of freight terminal to support this.p but then they pulled out, which did not Eli the situ. Coupled with some locals opposition it went no go.

cheers

A "mini village" of 6,500 new homes no less...

Alconbury Weald

andrewn 27th Jan 2020 13:19


Originally Posted by Martin the Martian (Post 10670735)
I really don't understand why they ever contemplated Duxford in the first place. I like to think that IWM told them to get on their bike when they were approached them.

Plenty of space down here at Newquay.

Because there are so few viable options (like none), because we sell all our airfields to property developers at knock down prices so they can make a mint?

andrewn 27th Jan 2020 13:27


Originally Posted by Lima Juliet (Post 10670646)
Houses on Wyton’s airfield was dropped about 2 years ago - https://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/raf...enda-1-5264495

Mildenhall to close some time after 2024 (although rumours are it won’t at all): https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/longer-r...hall-1-5832485

The developers havent given up on Wyton, they just go to ground temporarily and then come back with an even more "ambitious" plan:

Latest Wyton Housing proposal

Mildenhall will go the same way, mix of industrial and housing - it's already pre-determined and any talk of local consultation is just the usual non-event that makes it look like they've considered all the options. The land at Mildenhall is desparately needed to serve Cambridge expansion.

Asturias56 27th Jan 2020 13:50

That's part of it - Marshalls are located in one of the most expensive and fastest growing parts of the UK - a move further away is probably necessary..... Manston!

c52 27th Jan 2020 13:55

London (Lydd)?

ex82watcher 27th Jan 2020 15:27

My brother,who lives nearby, received a letter last week from developers with their outline plan for building 1500 houses on the former RNAS Ford,so that's out !.Former airfields are falling like skittles to the onslaught of the house builders.

Kemble Pitts 27th Jan 2020 15:36

Looks ominous.

Call me cynical but I wouldn't be surpised if, at some point, we see a press release from Marshalls along the lines of "having sold our aerodrome for a shed full of money, we've explored all possible options for re-locating our aviation business to another suitable location. Unfortunately this has proved to be not possible so we're trousering the money and shutting the business. So, many thanks to all of our loyal employees, but they can go-swivel".

I really hope I'm wrong.

Herod 27th Jan 2020 17:20

Weathersfield would make quite a bit of sense. It's still owned by the MOD, and I believe the runway is in pretty good shape. Not a lot of built -up area around, and transport links are pretty good. About an hour by road from Cambridge, and the M25 isn't that far away. Possibly too logical?


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