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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk
(Post 10599947)
Do RM officers still go 'up' a rank when they are onboard one of Her Maj's war canoes (i.e. a RM Captain has the onboard seniority of a RN Lt Cdr) or was that an urban myth? And if so, are they acting local paid (or unpaid) and do they wear the insignia of their elevated rank?
Royal Marine officer ranks were realigned with Army ranks, with the obvious exception of Captain General, wef 1 July 1999, prior to which they had "appeared" to be one rank below their Royal Navy equivalents, despite being treated - and paid - as being of equal rank. The previous situation applied to officer from the rank of Lieutenant to Colonel with under five years seniority, and Royal Marine officers serving directly with the Army were usually awarded local higher rank for practical reasons, whilst the rank of Brigadier Royal Marines became a substantive, rather than an acting, rank in 1997. Jack |
Originally Posted by Union Jack
(Post 10600197)
Glad to see that Alfred goes along with the thoughts expressed in my Post - at least by implication.
Royal Marine officer ranks were realigned with Army ranks, with the obvious exception of Captain General, wef 1 July 1999, prior to which they had "appeared" to be one rank below their Royal Navy equivalents, despite being treated - and paid - as being of equal rank. The previous situation applied to officer from the rank of Lieutenant to Colonel with under five years seniority, and Royal Marine officers serving directly with the Army were usually awarded local higher rank for practical reasons, whilst the rank of Brigadier Royal Marines became a substantive, rather than an acting, rank in 1997. Jack |
Originally Posted by Union Jack
(Post 10600197)
Glad to see that Alfred goes along with the thoughts expressed in my Post - at least by implication.
Royal Marine officer ranks were realigned with Army ranks, with the obvious exception of Captain General, wef 1 July 1999, prior to which they had "appeared" to be one rank below their Royal Navy equivalents, despite being treated - and paid - as being of equal rank. The previous situation applied to officer from the rank of Lieutenant to Colonel with under five years seniority, and Royal Marine officers serving directly with the Army were usually awarded local higher rank for practical reasons, whilst the rank of Brigadier Royal Marines became a substantive, rather than an acting, rank in 1997. Jack |
Why don't they just merge the Royal Marines with the army, with say the Parachute Regiment? I'm sure it would work out just fine...
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10600686)
Why don't they just merge the Royal Marines with the army, with say the Parachute Regiment? I'm sure it would work out just fine...
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Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 10600701)
Yeah, the ‘social events’ down at ‘t pub would be impressive! :)
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Marines are still a needed specialty - "parachutists" aren't - it's just the name of a Regiment - like "Fusiliers" or "Grenadiers"for a specialty task that is long gone
I suppose every Army needs a bunch of ultra -hard men - but they need to be careful where they use them as the UK found out to its cost .................. |
"Rough men do violent things that we may sleep safe in our beds at night" - IIRC, George Orwell
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10600783)
Marines are still a needed specialty - "parachutists" aren't - it's just the name of a Regiment - like "Fusiliers" or "Grenadiers"for a specialty task that is long gone
I suppose every Army needs a bunch of ultra -hard men - but they need to be careful where they use them as the UK found out to its cost .................. Pretty sure the Parachute Regiment still train to do just that... ever heard of 16 Air Assault Brigade?🤔 |
The Naval Service (RN, RM, QARNNS, and their Reserves) is currently going through a period of transformation and all sorts of things are being considered. This issue has also been discussed on ARRSE.
World gone mad! Bah! |
Why don't they just merge the Royal Marines with the army, with say the Parachute Regiment? I'm sure it would work out just fine.. And you could throw in the Rockapes as well - that would be fun ;) |
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the arrangements involving all 3 of the above-mentioned organisations who work - closely - together at St Athan. What they do there doesn't seem to directly accord with everyone's prejudice(s).
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Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
(Post 10601736)
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the arrangements involving all 3 of the above-mentioned organisations who work - closely - together at St Athan. What they do there doesn't seem to directly accord with everyone's prejudice(s).
a - were serving and knew what happened at St Athan b - weren’t obsessed by having two wings on their chest and c - accepted that FJs (and their pilots) are a simple tool to get a part of a job done, like any other slice of the Armed Forces. But yes, that lot do work well together, but it’s taken some time to get there. |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10600783)
Marines are still a needed specialty - "parachutists" aren't - it's just the name of a Regiment - like "Fusiliers" or "Grenadiers"for a specialty task that is long gone
I suppose every Army needs a bunch of ultra -hard men - but they need to be careful where they use them as the UK found out to its cost .................. |
Confessing ignorance here, but what does go on at St Athan? Over 40 years ago it was the place we sent our Victor 1s to die, but I assume the place has changed a bit since then.
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
(Post 10602265)
Confessing ignorance here, but what does go on at St Athan? Over 40 years ago it was the place we sent our Victor 1s to die, but I assume the place has changed a bit since then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia..._Support_Group |
Yes but PPRuNe is even more so!
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
(Post 10601065)
. And you could throw in the Rockapes as well - that would be fun ;) |
Originally Posted by Maxibon
(Post 10602983)
Why would you merge two offensive units such as the RM and PARA with an airfield defence force???!!!
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Up until the Marine Branch closed in 86, it always amused me that the Air Force had an army and a navy, the Navy had an army and an air force and the Army had an air force and a navy.
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