Well, why not have a look at a map, airport chart, or even Google Map ?
Please note I wrote "down the runway", not "from the taxiway", which is located... why not find by yourself^^?

I'm afraid I can't concur.
Look again, the guy is using coarse rudder inputs to try an stay on course, and brakes so hard he locks his left main wheels (see the smoke ?) in the roll out.

The only mistake he didn't make is punch the front gear into the fuselage, a la B757^^!

Really, I watched a VC10 air display practice where they missed the centreline and heaved the thing round to try and get it back on the display line, It was the first and only time I saw shockwaves forming over the wing roots, the pilot overstressed the aircraft and the meter was reset before we got to the aircraft, no one on the crew would tell us exactly what they had pulled and wanted it hushing up, needless to say the sh*t hit the fan when the aircraft state went in to group that night and the aircraft was listed as grounded for overstress checks as without figures to go by we had to assume the worst scenario..

That is the standard all the arm chair critics might consider.

The Aircraft landed without damage of any kind,, stayed on the runway, and was fit for mission at the end of the day.

Willy wrote a play about this....."Much Todo About Nothing"!

By the way....did the RAF send a large aircraft to the Show?

They didn't send much to Cosford either, if it wasn't for the museum and the school dragging out the old favourites and the foreign / civilian display aircraft it would have been over in an hour, a Typhoon, a Tucano, a Chinook, the Dead Sparrows and several Grobs were it.

I am here this week so heres my photos of 22nd's latest toy :) on static

Cheers


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Thanks for the pictures.
Pity that in France you are fenced off the airplanes, contrary to the US.
Any chances of chatting with the crew ?

By luck or by judgement?
How many precursors to a hard landing and/or a runway excursion were present?

Maybe all you critics should send your complaints to the CO of the 344th ARS.....maybe that was the CO....:eek:

....and yes I have big aircraft time also and don't see this as one of the top ten major military aviation concerns right now. Most of the complainers here seem somewhat like the types I'm familiar with who are reluctant to, even uncomfortable with disconnecting the auto-pilot.

newt , old bean, notwithstanding the training the military was once able to provide and the fact that many airlines now frown on their 'children of the magenta' from flying manually, never forget the wise words of Frank Borman:

By which definition, whoever made that abysmal approach and landing at Paris was clearly NOT a superior pilot.

Back when you were hooliganing about in your Lightning :ok: , novice BOAC VC10 pilots had to fly something like 40 landings during type training, with a lot of manual flying. Whereas today, the beancounters deem manual flying generally superfluous, to the extent that many an airline copilot would find something as simple (to you and me) as a visual circuit extremely challenging.

But whose fault is that?

What's all the fuss about? Nice tight circuit, airshow intentional. Blimey!

In about 1974, from the vantage of the Hong Kong Flying Club, opposite the 13 threshold, we could observe those that had over/under cooked the turn at the checker board. My prize for persistence went to an Air India 707 who did get it down eventually and managed to stop in a cloud of burning tyre smoke just short of 31 threshold. In comparison, the KC approach and landing was sedate!

Not sure why they wouldn't allow close up inspection of the outside, but you can blame the USAF for not being allowed on-board. Just to get on board to doing required pre-flight and certification testing, I had to take a course and then sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). Not sure what I might have seen while on-board that would be potentially damaging if I disclosed it to the wrong person, but it was a USAF requirement.