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Originally Posted by VinRouge
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i am not advocating systems as extreme as either China or Iran. Simply pointing out in a system where self interest prevails, a sensible balanced and researched compromise cannot be reached. State pensions currently consume 12% of GDP, yes, gdp, not tax revenue. It’s growing at an unsustainable rate meaning that those of working age currently contributing are likely to either not see a state pension before 70+ or will see it means tested. Mainly in part to the triple lock introduced for political reasons. That is a lot of money to be spending on a system that was supposed to be a safety net and instead had metamorphosed into something much different. Good luck to the politician pointing out to the populace that expenditure on state pension and healthcare has now led to the loss of education grants, massive cuts to the state education system, defence, Infra projects, r and d research and policing. You can’t blame it on all on the financial crisis when it’s being spent elsewhere. We have just had over 30% of the participating population vote for a party in the European elections that doesn’t even have a manifesto. So please spare me excuses that the democratic system is in any way functional. Whether the other systems are undesirable to you is an utterly moot point. The Chinese are now matching and in some cases overtaking western tech in terms of quality, particularly in the fields of electronics, quantum computing and Generalised AI. We can bang on about moral higher ground as much as we like, in 50 years, it will be them and not us that are setting global trends. as to Iran “Death cult”, sounds like someone has been falling for the free trump kool aid. Interesting developments over the pond at the moment, something about a big wall to keep the cockroaches out, interment of immigrant children, intelligent creation vs science, climate change denial and banning abortion in a number of states. Not too sure accusations of lunacy need to be thrown Eastward at the moment. |
Originally Posted by F.O.D
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Sorry Vinrouge, Although it is still lots of money, the UK actually spends less than 8% of GDP on state pensions, not sure where you got 12% from.
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I'm still struggling to see the link between what the UK spends on pensions and, 'Iran with nuclear tipped Missiles....Game Changer?'
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Agreed, melmothtw. This whole thread is getting boring. Ignore at leisure.
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It's entertaining reading human vs chatbot 😁
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Originally Posted by SASless
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Preventing the Iranian Regime from gaining nuclear weapons is just one of those issues....
I perceive you care not for the Man and that generates an inability to accept he is in fact getting something done despite all of the opposition he faces from the Establishment. His Secretary of Treasury is a former Goldman Sachs executive. His Attorney General was the former GHW Bush Administration Attorney General. His Secretary of Education is a former politcial lobbyist. His Secratary’s of Energy and Agriculture are former Republican politicians and every other cabinet Secretary is a former long term government employee in a various federal departments His Chief of Staff is a long time Republican politician. His CIA director is a long term CIA employee. And of course his National Security Advisor is the epitome of the word “establishment” having established himself as the prime neocon of the last few decades. Every single member of the Trump Administration is a member of this so called “establishment” whether you like it or not. Instead of “draining the swamp” he drained it, found the most disgusting, vile establishment creatures at the bottom and put them in his administration (Bolton, Pompeo etc) |
Odd isn't it.....a Republican President enlisting Republicans to serve in his administration....imagine that!
Did not Obama fill his administration with.....Democrats? Just imagine picking a long term career CIA Employee to be the Director of the .....CIA who would have thunk it? I think you doth protest too much. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
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Every single member of the Trump Administration is a member of this so called “establishment” whether you like it or not. Instead of “draining the swamp” he drained it, found the most disgusting, vile establishment creatures at the bottom and put them in his administration (Bolton, Pompeo etc) "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" |
Another Proverb....Birds of a feather flock together.
A good word to remember is ....Charlatan |
He just negotiated an Agreement with Mexico re that problem using the promise of Tariffs if they did not begin to take some real action Sorry, that's not negotiation, it's bullying and one that will likely come back to bite the citizens of USA. That isn't to say that there isn't an II problem on the US-Mexico border, there is, in the same way that some EU countries face an II problem from places such as Africa. I don't know what the solution is, I suspect you need to go to the country of origin of the II to understand why they think their preferred country of destination is the right place or a better place to be. In the EU, an immigrant is supposed to be "processed" by the country within the EU that they first set foot in, some of the EU member states, most notably France, seem to ignore that. Until then, we have to be careful that we don't confuse legal immigration with illegal immigration with refugees |
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