The idiots I see are indeed taking over the asylum
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10454451)
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I must try calling my wife 'It' and see what happens.
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Indeed they are !
'the Royal Navy has a long tradition of referring to its ships as 'she' and will continue to do so a spokesPERSON said '. |
A Royal Navy spokesman said: “The Royal Navy has a long tradition of referring to its ships as ‘she’ and will continue to do so.” Whoever vandalised the museum might benefit from being introduced to 'The Captain's Daughter'! |
We think that we have problems:
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...minism/545048/ |
I'm in a minority who have generally referred to aircraft as "it" rather than "she", but I have absolutely no objections to "she". I think it can go a bit far, though. On the Facebook V Bomber group, some of the XH 558 groupies on there have taken to referring to it as "Our Delta Lady" which I find a bit much. As an aside, there have been several candidates for "Queen of the Skies" over the years (Canberra, Boeing 747 etc), but no kings as far as I know.
Incidentally I don't think the defaced sign should be restored - it should be left as a monument to stupidity. |
Definitely flown with a few Queens of the Skies.......
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Well, they are full of seamen, so they should be called "she".
However, this IS the navy, so you could call it "shim". |
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You just know that some poleclimber is thinking of setting up a Sexist Historical Investigation Team to get those naval aviators who have used 'mother' or 'mum' in radio transmissions when operating off a deck. But it's ok, the defence budget will get a hike to pay for retraining.
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And the Wessex was often called "Queen Mother of the Skies".......
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Damn, Teeters beat me to it - although I thought it was the Whirlwind that took that particular accolade while the mighty(!) Wessex held sway.
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Everyone has the right to be addressed as they wish, but getting offended at the proffered or perceived gender of an object is pure bollo**s (or should that be ovaries)? Far too many people trying far too hard to find offence. Good luck with your outrage if you live in France, Spain or other countries which ascribe gender to objects, inanimate or otherwise.😁
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Nope! The Frenchies are binning the male/female thing as well! :eek:
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Originally Posted by Onceapilot
(Post 10454707)
Nope! The Frenchies are binning the male/female thing as well! :eek:
OAP |
Originally Posted by TLDNMCL
(Post 10454712)
That's great news - it makes my appalling attempts at the language all the more valid
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Thud and Blunder
Damn, Teeters beat me to it - although I thought it was the Whirlwind that took that particular accolade while the mighty(!) Wessex held sway If it's a Whirlwind here's two Queen Mothers together at Biggin Hill - April 1955. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d0f50713b5.jpg |
Originally Posted by Onceapilot
(Post 10454707)
Nope! The Frenchies are binning the male/female thing as well! :eek:
OAP Jon |
We are in the year 2019 and the Royal Navy has had mixed gender surface ship crews for years, and the submarine fleet is about to follow.
Why would a female onboard a ship want to call it she, why not he? |
So how would one refer to a Seaking? |
Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 10455026)
So how would one refer to a Seaking? -RP |
Surely a Ship has the same right to ‘self identify’ as anyone else? If you are going to be PC be PC. |
Originally posted by TTN
On the Facebook V Bomber group, some of the XH 558 groupies on there have taken to referring to it as "Our Delta Lady" which I find a bit much |
Some of them actually make sense, but most make NO sense at all. "So how can a bike be un velo or une bicyclette, or a car be un auto or une voiture?" "Don't be difficult!" Even worse in German and Russian. Like Latin they have neuter as well. |
Totally agree but I do love "The Old Grey Lady" |
Of course ships and aircraft are "she". Lovely to look at, expensive to maintain, and if you don't treat them properly, they will make you suffer.. Love every one of them.
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The latest piece of PC lunacy I've encountered comes from the CAA.
Once upon a time, references were often to 'he' or 'him', with some explanatory text explaining that this also included females. That was a bit condescending, in my view, so I preferred to use 'he/she' or 'him/her'. But that isn't good enough for the PC idiots now - who are insisting that the plural word 'they' should be used even when referring to a single person... What UTTER bolleaux is that? Presumably to keep he/she/it/don't know/don't care or some LGB GT (or whatever they call themselves these days) from being able to claim discrimination? If the Navy wants to keep its tradition, then fine. But calling an aircraft 'she' is a bit weird - in my day it was usually 'the jet' or 'the bomber' or just 'it'. The 558 Klingons presumably refer to 'Delta Lady' after the Joe Cocker song - because no-one can surely think that a Vulcan is in any way female? 'Our' Delta Lady is particularly nauseating, especially when used by someone who hadn't contributed any funding for the aircraft's return to flight. What next - will the 'wimmin' (Private Eye ibid) be demanding that 'The Old Man of Hoy' is renamed? Or that the 'Isle of Man' is sexist....? |
Aren't/weren't Royal Navy aircraft carriers referred to as "mother"?
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10455459)
Herod,
How quaintly sexist, and patronising and condescending.... A view totally from a male perspective, and dated about 1957... A hint: the post which raised your blood pressure was light-hearted, banter even. Show it your jazz hands! |
I agree broadly with Beagle: Vulcan crew chiefs always referred to "my bomber"; aircrew usually said "it".
There's only one thing worse than people sitting around looking for something to be angry about and that's people sitting around looking for something to be tedious about. And while I'm about it: prOOne you are surely the archdeacon of condescension. A last glass of New Zealand's finest calls. |
Don't the Russians and, I think, the Germans use the masculine when referring to ships?
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Does it really matter by what sex an object is referred to? Most were terms of endearment (or otherwise) and were never intended to get to this stage of (dare I say), political (?) stupidity!
Bill |
In German it's easiest to talk about things in plurals as all plurals are feminine, as are all words ending with -ung, -heit and -keit.
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Originally Posted by Harley Quinn
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Don't the Russians and, I think, the Germans use the masculine when referring to ships?
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Slightly adrift :) And the other day that idiot Vine was doing a piece about milkmen. Oops he said, we must call them milkpersons - and he was serious. FCS, has he not heard of the milklady or the milkmaid? That was the first time I had tuned in to the cretin for months - not again.
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The Spams, of course, took this nonsense to the extreme. The 'fighter box' became the 'fighter container' and going 'head to head' became 'locker to locker' (as in that vile Spam expression 'snot locker' for nose). Some even used 'cranium' rather than 'head'...
Was that so they didn't upset ze 'box heads'? No, it was allegedly because those words upset some wimmin. So we told them that a word they frequently used was causing offence to our young ladies. Being Spams, they didn't realise that this was, of course, a UK wind-up. "Very sorry, what word is it that you don't want us to use?".... "Bush!". :E Agree with you concerning the Jeremy Whine programme, jindabyne! |
"Richard Cranium" was always a useful description to have at the ready. As in "d***head".
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Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 10456247)
The Spams, of course, took this nonsense to the extreme. The 'fighter box' became the 'fighter container' and going 'head to head' became 'locker to locker' (as in that vile Spam expression 'snot locker' for nose). Some even used 'cranium' rather than 'head'...
Was that so they didn't upset ze 'box heads'? No, it was allegedly because those words upset some wimmin. So we told them that a word they frequently used was causing offence to our young ladies. Being Spams, they didn't realise that this was, of course, a UK wind-up. "Very sorry, what word is it that you don't want us to use?".... "Bush!". :E Agree with you concerning the Jeremy Whine programme, jindabyne! |
What worries me Mr pr00ne is what way up side down we'll be in come 2059? Will we be fighting for men's rights to serve in every Branch of the Armed Forces? or something? Perhaps Humans' to be given equal rights to Robots!
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