Tornado GR4 last flight
I assume that the out of service date for the GR4 is still March/April time? Does anyone know if there is a set timetable and will there be some sort of flypast of past and present Tornado bases or any other event planned to mark the end of this excellent aircraft's distinguished service?
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Not many 'past' GR operating bases left. Bruggen, Laarbruch, Honington, & Cottesmore have all ceased flying. Even the peripheral GR hosts such as Bedford and St Athan have also wound down with only UWAS still flying from St Athan. So sadly, that leaves just Lossiemouth and Marham with perhaps a nod to Boscombe Down. .
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RAF Marham have organised a photo shoot on January 25th. I would imagine that all the places have been allocated.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dc1b59bae5.jpg |
Bollox, another shoot missed :( it would be nice to see some go to museums instead of the U.K. PLC's normal sell for scrap or to high a price for most museums. It's all well and good trying to get back the maximum profit for the UK but sometimes that is to the detriment of future of the UK's aviation history, the F3 was an example, very few survived. |
Just 16 F3s remain according to this list (out of a couple of hundred?)
ZE168 (N) Private Thorpe Wood, Selby ZE204 FC, 25 Sqn marks Fire School Manston Fire School ZE256 TP, also wears 'ZE343' Private Thorpe Wood, Selby ZE340 GO, 9298M, 43 Sqn marks DSAE Cosford DSAE ZE760 AP, 229 OCU marks Preserved, gate guard Coningsby ZE836 36-12, MM7210 Museum Vigna di Valle, Italy ZE887 GF, 43 Sqn marks Museum, inside Hendon, Barnet ZE934 TA, 56 Sqn marks Museum, inside East Fortune, East Lothian ZE936 (N) Museum Neatishead ZE965 (N), 111 Sqn marks Private UK ZE966 VT Preserved Hawarden - Chester Airport, Flintshire ZE967 UT, 56/111 Sqn marks Preserved Leuchars, Fife ZG751 Centre fuselage JARTS Boscombe Down ZG795 (F) Stored Boscombe Down ZH552 Preserved, gate guard Leeming ZH553 RT, 56 Sqn marks Museum, outside Newquay Aerohub List from Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft |
Originally Posted by HaveQuick2
(Post 10346166)
Just 16 F3s remain according to this list (out of a couple of hundred?)
ZE168 (N) Private Thorpe Wood, Selby ZE204 FC, 25 Sqn marks Fire School Manston Fire School ZE256 TP, also wears 'ZE343' Private Thorpe Wood, Selby ZE340 GO, 9298M, 43 Sqn marks DSAE Cosford DSAE ZE760 AP, 229 OCU marks Preserved, gate guard Coningsby ZE836 36-12, MM7210 Museum Vigna di Valle, Italy ZE887 GF, 43 Sqn marks Museum, inside Hendon, Barnet ZE934 TA, 56 Sqn marks Museum, inside East Fortune, East Lothian ZE936 (N) Museum Neatishead ZE965 (N), 111 Sqn marks Private UK ZE966 VT Preserved Hawarden - Chester Airport, Flintshire ZE967 UT, 56/111 Sqn marks Preserved Leuchars, Fife ZG751 Centre fuselage JARTS Boscombe Down ZG795 (F) Stored Boscombe Down ZH552 Preserved, gate guard Leeming ZH553 RT, 56 Sqn marks Museum, outside Newquay Aerohub List from Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft So I make that 21 of the 165 Tornado ADVs that were made are still complete (there are more examples of cockpits and even an excellent complete simulator at Thorpe Camp) - so in excess of 12% preserved, which isn’t too bad really? |
Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
(Post 10346795)
Missing from the list: ZA267 Tornado ADV in 25(F) Sqn markings at RAF Syerston. ZD889 Tornado F2 at Bury or emergency training. ZD900 is a Tornado F2 ground instructional airframe at RAF Lossiemouth. ZD936 Tornado F2 at the Boscombe Down Collection at Old Sarum. ZD938 is a Tornado F2 at Doncaster Museum. So I make that 21 of the 165 Tornado ADVs that were made are still complete (there are more examples of cockpits and even an excellent complete simulator at Thorpe Camp) - so in excess of 12% preserved, which isn’t too bad really? |
Errmmm, preserved isn't how I would describe all of those on the list
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/858/4...a1e3dc15_z.jpg Panavia Tornado F3 - ZE204 by Liam Daniels, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted by HaveQuick2
(Post 10346808)
As I stated, that was a list of F3s (NOT F2s or ADVs)
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ADVs were employed by RSAF and were essentially F3s with post Granby mods and AWSMDS selectable on demand.
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Originally Posted by Vendee
(Post 10345926)
I assume that the out of service date for the GR4 is still March/April time? Does anyone know if there is a set timetable and will there be some sort of flypast of past and present Tornado bases or any other event planned to mark the end of this excellent aircraft's distinguished service?
I would therefore hope that the RAF will give this iconic jet a suitably respectful retirement and ensure that as many people as possible get the opportunity to say good by. |
I reckon those hoping for a big flypast will probably be a little let down.
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The final flight of the F3 was a 3-ship from Boscombe to Leeming via Coningsby and Leuchars. The final flight of a GR1 (ZA326) was a
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10346972)
Errmmm, preserved isn't how I would describe all of those on the list
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/858/4...a1e3dc15_z.jpg Panavia Tornado F3 - ZE204 by Liam Daniels, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted by nipva
(Post 10345957)
Not many 'past' GR operating bases left. Bruggen, Laarbruch, Honington, & Cottesmore have all ceased flying. Even the peripheral GR hosts such as Bedford and St Athan have also wound down with only UWAS still flying from St Athan. So sadly, that leaves just Lossiemouth and Marham with perhaps a nod to Boscombe Down. .
How about Mach Loop, Thirlmere, OLF Selkirk- Moffat pass, Spadeadam, Tain, Cowden, Donna, Wainfleet and Holbeach |
Originally Posted by typerated
(Post 10347521)
How about Mach Loop, Thirlmere, OLF Selkirk- Moffat pass, Spadeadam, Tain, Cowden, Donna, Wainfleet and Holbeach
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In Oct 1986, I visited Bruggen on a sort of ATC camp without cadets, just a few adult staff the excuse being a looksee to see what the cadets would be doing the following summer. The last RAFG Jaguar Squadron stood down and was replaced by a Tornado Squadron that very week.
Seems such a short time ago now but please excuse my ignorance; what are the GR4s being replaced with? |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10348774)
In Oct 1986, I visited Bruggen on a sort of ATC camp without cadets, just a few adult staff the excuse being a looksee to see what the cadets would be doing the following summer. The last RAFG Jaguar Squadron stood down and was replaced by a Tornado Squadron that very week.
Seems such a short time ago now but please excuse my ignorance; what are the GR4s being replaced with? I spent some time at RAF Bruggen and Laarbruch. It was an extremely busy flying operation with (I think) four squadrons at each base and close to 100 jets. Typhoon has extremely big boots to fill once Tornado is retired. |
So the present Typhoon is emulating its namesake, the Hawker Typhoon ie originally designed to be a fighter but making its name as a useful tactical attack aircraft.
I believe it may have been 31 Sqdn at Bruggen but I can't positively be sure. |
Originally Posted by Green Flash
(Post 10347531)
....and finish it all off by slapping a few live 1000lb's into Garvie?
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Nice to see the old girl back in her original colours.
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Originally Posted by Vendee
(Post 10355502)
Nice to see the old girl back in her original colours.
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Yes please thank you please.
Personally, I think this is the best scheme. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5ce54343f1.jpg |
That 17(F) aircraft looks terrible! I hope that the 'final' GR4 looks rather better.
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Originally Posted by unmanned_droid
(Post 10355528)
Yes please thank you please.
Personally, I think this is the best scheme. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5ce54343f1.jpg |
Originally Posted by TEEEJ
(Post 10355415)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f3d2b90b99.jpg
https://twitter.com/RoyalAirForce/st...88532445712384 https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2842fddac2.png |
Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 10355743)
That 17(F) aircraft looks terrible! I hope that the 'final' GR4 looks rather better.
Come on then, what's your pick of the GR schemes? |
Originally Posted by unmanned_droid
(Post 10355784)
Ok, the gauntlet is a bit manky but, this harks back to the interwar years.
Come on then, what's your pick of the GR schemes? https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4c6ec58b1c.jpg Image copyright Squadron Prints. |
My thanks to the GR4 crew for the flypast near Masham, North Yorkshire yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Harley Quinn
(Post 10355517)
Is it a full repaint or just the fin to save a few quid?
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
(Post 10355910)
You can see from the image that it is more than just the fin.
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Originally Posted by typerated
(Post 10349309)
add a few more : Amble (Croquet Island), Jurby range , WD 8, MC 6, MC 9 - all back in the day
"Rafair 500, flight of 3 Tornadoes, exiting low level 20m South of Shawbury, looking for the Lichfield 180 then climb 270 direct MC6" happy days |
Originally Posted by nipva https://www.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif Not many 'past' GR operating bases left. Bruggen, Laarbruch, Honington, & Cottesmore have all ceased flying. Even the peripheral GR hosts such as Bedford and St Athan have also wound down with only UWAS still flying from St Athan. So sadly, that leaves just Lossiemouth and Marham with perhaps a nod to Boscombe Down. . How about Mach Loop, Thirlmere, OLF Selkirk- Moffat pass, Spadeadam, Tain, Cowden, Donna, Wainfleet and Holbeach
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Any display/demo appearances scheduled before the end? |
Originally Posted by Fishtailed
(Post 10359098)
It can't leave without visiting Warton and Samlesbury, we made it!! Thankfully the other users are keeping it flying for many years.
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Originally Posted by ShotOne
(Post 10359173)
Any display/demo appearances scheduled before the end? |
Just had a GR4 over the house there. Ah, sounded great.
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