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Melchett01 22nd Nov 2018 17:19

AFPRB 2019
 
Announced today that the AFPRB report will be late again next year, with the Board being asked to report in May and the pay settlement thrashed out over the summer for release later in the year. But apparently they have learned lessons (that’ll be a first for the MOD) from this year and will implement accordingly.

Timing no doubt influenced by BREXIT and the need to both make sure the country hasn’t imploded by 1 Apr and that there is actually some money available to pay anybody anything at all. But still rather frustrating to hear given that we still haven’t actually received the ‘bonus’ element from this year’s round and won’t until March next year. I sense kicking the can down the road this year has set the precedent for what will be the new norm i.e. yet more administrative chaos - or as my elderly mother said when I described how this year’s pay was being implemented, ‘can’t they get anything right these days?’

MPN11 22nd Nov 2018 17:50

As an RAF Pensioner, I have always just sat back and accepted the current kick in the testes, even when serving.. Not much a chap can do about it, really.

Write to my MP? Michael Gove has other matters on his mind!!

Door Slider 22nd Nov 2018 18:01

Half the “bonus” element is in our November pay and the remainder will be in March.

MPN11 22nd Nov 2018 18:06

Similar processes in the 1980s and going forward, IIRC.

Melchett01 22nd Nov 2018 18:14


Originally Posted by Door Slider (Post 10317640)
Half the “bonus” element is in our November pay and the remainder will be in March.

And that is the way I think it will be from now on to reduce the pay bill even further - delayed pay rises, at a level lower than that recommended by the Board, with the difference paid as a one of bonus over a number of months. Anything but doing the right thing by their ‘best asset’.

And this is with our current ‘simple’ pay structures. Imagine the chaos if the Chancellor has his way and regional pay scales are introduced or if the AFPRB recommend bespoke pay spines for individual cohorts.

Party Animal 22nd Nov 2018 19:51

But if it’s any consolation, JPA now has the ‘bonus’ software patch installed. So the 0.7% next year could be paid as a one’er and realistically in Oct 19. Either way, you can feel it coming!

Jumping_Jack 23rd Nov 2018 10:58

Feeling valued? Anyone?

Foghorn Leghorn 23rd Nov 2018 15:38

So, what happens if one were to leave the Service between now and the second half of the payment in March?

Just This Once... 23rd Nov 2018 19:14

As someone who did leave midway through this pantomime it has been river of additional payments, deductions, pension revisions and gratuity uplifts.

Melchett01 23rd Nov 2018 19:55


Originally Posted by Jumping_Jack (Post 10318262)
Feeling valued? Anyone?

Oh yes, hugely valued. On top of being told that RAF personnel in JFC wont be getting the 5 extra days stand down CAS has awarded to all RAF personnel in recognition of 100 years and operational commitment and success, we’re all feeling the love here this week!

gr4techie 24th Nov 2018 18:32

I would quite happily have the same pay and benefits as the Pay Review Body...

Link

MPN11 24th Nov 2018 18:45

Is the 5 extra days in one lump, being used to fill the hristmas/New Year gap, or available piecemeal at Unit Cdr’s discretion, or added to Annual Leave entitlement?

4everAD 24th Nov 2018 19:58


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10319465)
Is the 5 extra days in one lump, being used to fill the hristmas/New Year gap, or available piecemeal at Unit Cdr’s discretion, or added to Annual Leave entitlement?

the latter.

Melchett01 25th Nov 2018 13:01


Originally Posted by 4everAD (Post 10319502)
the latter.

Glad you piped up there. Seeing as we weren’t officially told about it, but heard on the grapevine, we weren’t told the detail. It’s almost like they hoped we wouldn’t find out!

Training Risky 26th Nov 2018 11:23


Originally Posted by Melchett01 (Post 10318700)


Oh yes, hugely valued. On top of being told that RAF personnel in JFC wont be getting the 5 extra days stand down CAS has awarded to all RAF personnel in recognition of 100 years and operational commitment and success, we’re all feeling the love here this week!

Melch. That is appalling 'leadership' from the JFC towers! Is this decision down to that brown-job 4-star?

Jumping_Jack 26th Nov 2018 13:51

Melchett01. I copied CAS' letter to my light blue 2* (also JFC) with the relevant bit highlighted where CAS requests that TLBs other than the Air TLB honour the additional grant. Got a flat 'no' as it was considered 'divisive'. Thanks for nothing Boss.

alfred_the_great 26th Nov 2018 16:17


Originally Posted by Jumping_Jack (Post 10320834)
Melchett01. I copied CAS' letter to my light blue 2* (also JFC) with the relevant bit highlighted where CAS requests that TLBs other than the Air TLB honour the additional grant. Got a flat 'no' as it was considered 'divisive'. Thanks for nothing Boss.

The Crabs are alright, Jack.

bunta130 26th Nov 2018 17:03


Originally Posted by Jumping_Jack (Post 10320834)
Melchett01. I copied CAS' letter to my light blue 2* (also JFC) with the relevant bit highlighted where CAS requests that TLBs other than the Air TLB honour the additional grant. Got a flat 'no' as it was considered 'divisive'. Thanks for nothing Boss.

If that really is the case, perhaps CAS would be interested in the 2-Star's response....... You are not all of one cloth, even within JFC, despite wearing combat pyjamas. I'm sure, if the boot was on the other foot, the Army or RN would have absolutely no hesitation in 'rewarding' their personnel appropriately and unilaterally.

MPN11 26th Nov 2018 18:53

Do the others get a day off for Trafalgar Day or Minden Day? Different, I know, but still a rather sh1tty deal ... unless the extra 5 can be carried forward [to the next appointment] of course.

4everAD 27th Nov 2018 05:51

The Navy guys will soon be getting techie pay the RAF guys aren't that's very divisive!


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