Belgian AF F-16 damaged
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I don't know how accurate this is, but this was posted to Facebook this morning.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1500e9f8d9.png |
Far too many holes even to start with, and I don't mean in the one shot up.
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A lot of holes in that particular Swiss cheese lined up if that is true
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"One technician incurred hearing impairment."
Probably from the line technician's post accident one-way interview! :eek: |
A good kill, paint it on the side. |
IF this is not a hoax then a LOT of holes in the cheese all lined up..or someone knew exactly what they were doing!
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IF this is not a hoax then a LOT of holes in the cheese all lined up..or someone knew exactly what they were doing! |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10272197)
"One technician incurred hearing impairment."
Probably from the line technician's post accident one-way interview! :eek: Still, look on the bright side. Thank goodness no people were in the way of it. And, at least we know the Vulcan cannon works OK. |
Lessons repeatedly learnt and forgotten - how many times have aircraft on airfields and carriers been hit by weapons being armed and serviced whilst pointing directly at them? Wasn’t that what sight lines were established pointing out at sea or empty land? Bad enough in the days when aircraft were lined up on pans in front of hangars. In the days of airfields where aircraft are kept in HAS on sites purposely designed to prevent fratricide it’s unforgivable. The person responsible isnt the technician - the system is designed to cope with that. It’s all those in the chain above him/her who have, apparently, disregarded every safety precaution in place to prevent exactly such an event. One hopes the individual wont become a scapegoat. |
Wow. Armed acft in the hangar...
no bullet trap... somehow over-ride the squat switch... activate the gun without checking all above... The technician will be wishing he had been standing in front of it. |
Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
(Post 10272488)
Wow. Armed acft in the hangar...
no bullet trap... somehow over-ride the squat switch... activate the gun without checking all above... The technician will be wishing he had been standing in front of it. Either it was intentional or something else happened they are not telling us. |
One, you score ...
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CVR transcript released ; ”Pew,pew,pew; Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp; Merde!” |
Interesting title for the thread, looking at the pictures I'd say maybe amend it to destroyed
Thankfully nobody was seriously injured and they still have 54 others left |
Wow. Armed acft in the hangar... no bullet trap... somehow over-ride the squat switch... activate the gun without checking all above... |
Fox 4 ...
...four more and he's an ace.. |
Thanks, gents. As an amateur in this field I was wondering about 'weight on wheels'.
I have also learned a couple of new buzz-words. ;) |
squat switches inop you suggest activate the gun without checking all above... BGG do you remember the Harrier fired off the SNEBS in the hangar? I could list several instances, aircraft on an operational turnround would be armed in the HAS on exercise. Indeed we had one ******** pilot as an inject fire off the Phimat in a Manned HAS, he came close to counting knuckles. MPN11 :) squat switches and 'weight on wheels' are the same thing. The Americans when teaching our Chinook crews used to disconnect the switches BTW |
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Voici l'image du F16 qui a explosé au sol à Florennes - La DH
I would say that the pictures showing the aircraft in the hangar circled are probably press guesswork as there is a substantial concrete wall that appears to be between them, also the hangar has not been taped off as far as I can see, so possibly it was from a HAS, good to see they appear to be in full hazmat gear as invisible burnt carbon fibre strands in the air are lethal and will shred the lungs and kill you.. https://ds1.static.rtbf.be/image/med...ed7fe974c3.jpg from https://www.rtbf.be/info/belgique/de...le?id=10043888 |
Nutloose’s article above suggests that two other F-16s were ‘lightly’ damaged, and that the inquiry will determine among other things whether this ‘almost impossible’ event was deliberate or accidental. |
What happened to safe headings for parking with live guns? We didn't even walk in front of them when completing the pre-flight walk-round, ducking under the aircraft instead. |
As has been pointed out, there's a wall between the hangar and the flightline.
But there is a gap in the wall... https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5fea3d62ef.jpg |
Originally Posted by msbbarratt
(Post 10272335)
No tea, no biscuits?
Still, look on the bright side. Thank goodness no people were in the way of it. And, at least we know the Vulcan cannon works OK. |
Originally Posted by Just This Once...
(Post 10282492)
What happened to safe headings for parking with live guns? We didn't even walk in front of them when completing the pre-flight walk-round, ducking under the aircraft instead. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10281792)
Voici l'image du F16 qui a explosé au sol à Florennes - La DH
I would say that the pictures showing the aircraft in the hangar circled are probably press guesswork as there is a substantial concrete wall that appears to be between them, also the hangar has not been taped off as far as I can see, so possibly it was from a HAS, good to see they appear to be in full hazmat gear as invisible burnt carbon fibre strands in the air are lethal and will shred the lungs and kill you.. https://ds1.static.rtbf.be/image/med...ed7fe974c3.jpg from https://www.rtbf.be/info/belgique/de...le?id=10043888 |
Originally Posted by Chris Kebab
(Post 10282510)
..yep that's the bit I don't get JTO - something just doesn't feel quite right here; appreciate that sounds a bit of an understatement!
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You’d need a thicker wall than that
Even without a gap you’d need a thicker wall than that to stop cannon rounds
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If hit, the wall would add to the damage from the subsequent concrete spalling from the side facing the F-16. |
What does the nozzle of a shut down F 16 position to??? |
Way too long for me to remember for sure but I think it retained the nozzle at 95%, as it would be anyway at ground idle. The full idle range was something like 75 to 95% and the almost full nozzle dilation at ground idle helps to keep the thrust manageable whilst taxiing.
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Perfectly placed stop sign.
I wonder if the jet was parked outside a HAS opposite, possibly being rearmed etc as the angles look wrong for everything else, i would have thought the collapsed side was the one hit. https://www.google.com/maps/@50.2368602,4.6609908,445m/data=!3m1!1e3 sat map above . |
When I first heard of the incident I suspected that it may have involved an aircraft tooled up for QRA as the Belgians and Dutch share the commitment to cover themselves and Luxembourg. They swap over every four months and the Dutch began their latest stint only a month ago.
https://www.aviation24.be/military-a...elux-airspace/ |
The damaged jet carries A/A weapons. The jet next to it is about to get loaded probably since ground crew with missiles is nearby. Maybe there was a problem with the loading procedure.
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