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charliegolf 18th Aug 2018 19:35

Youthful High Spirits
 
Dreadful, un-officery behaviour? Or a bit of fun. Hopefully the latter- not seeing the RMP (probably SIB) being 'a fun lot' though.

Waterboarding, Sandhurst style.

CG

Edit: relevance: the (alleged) victim has a Weber:ok:

Just This Once... 18th Aug 2018 20:08

Looks to be in the 'dreadful' category, so nothing to do with officer training or fun.

orca 18th Aug 2018 20:16

The circles on the Venn diagram for ‘hi jinx’ and ‘waterboarding’ don’t meet.

Still - judgement reserved in absence of facts.

gijoe 18th Aug 2018 21:42

Non-story about 1/2 a tea cup...

OCdt Petal cries foul and the RMP lap it up as a real crime for them to play superheroes.

OCdt Petal, or mother of, doesn’t get their own way so calls the Currant Bun...which, last time I looked is against the Rules. RMAS machine goes into lockdown.

(Allegedly)

glad rag 18th Aug 2018 22:48

So where's the second half of the story, the bit with a cricket bat, two heads and four crushed nuts?

high spirits 18th Aug 2018 23:05

You rang......?

thunderbird7 19th Aug 2018 07:55

...or another Chivenor incident...

nipva 19th Aug 2018 09:58

'...or another Chivenor incident... '
#
Ok, I'll bite - what Chivenor incident?

Cows getting bigger 19th Aug 2018 11:52

Beer, lighter fluid, flying suit, navigator. Fill-in the gaps yourself.

gijoe 19th Aug 2018 13:42

...which was probably a bit messier and more painful than this current social mejia age non-story.

diginagain 19th Aug 2018 15:08

I wonder what techniques Plod will employ in their efforts to get to the bottom of this?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...e6392a06e5.png

glad rag 19th Aug 2018 15:10


Originally Posted by diginagain (Post 10228005)
I wonder what techniques Plod will employ in their efforts to get to the bottom of this?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...e6392a06e5.png

I wonder if the accused have their hearing checks up to date.

That was my experience of RAF police interrogation methods in the 80's.

Sorry what's that you said?

BEagle 19th Aug 2018 16:37

Re. the Chivenor incident of 29 years ago:

As posted by my old chum Flying Lawyer:


The three defendants and the injured man were all RAF officers attending a party to celebrate the completion of flying training.

Although it was accepted that the defendants had not intended to cause injury, they were court martialled and convicted of inflicting GBH contrary to s. 20 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861.

The Court Martial Appeal Court (as the Court of Appeal Criminal Division is called when dealing with Service cases) held that the judge-advocate should have directed the court martial to consider whether the injured man gave his consent as a willing participant to the activities in question, or whether the appellants may have believed that he did.

Their convictions were quashed.


Pontius Navigator 19th Aug 2018 18:28


o consider whether the injured man gave his consent as a willing participant to the activities in question, or whether the appellants may have believed that he did.
I believe that today that defence is invalid.

heights good 19th Aug 2018 19:03


Originally Posted by gijoe (Post 10227516)
Non-story about 1/2 a tea cup...

OCdt Petal cries foul and the RMP lap it up as a real crime for them to play superheroes.

OCdt Petal, or mother of, doesn’t get their own way so calls the Currant Bun...which, last time I looked is against the Rules. RMAS machine goes into lockdown.

(Allegedly)

I just want to check, waterboarding was used as an ‘enhanced interrogation’ technique to try and make terrorists talk, but “OCdt Petal” is over-reacting?


charliegolf 19th Aug 2018 19:44


Originally Posted by heights good (Post 10228167)


I just want to check, waterboarding was used as an ‘enhanced interrogation’ technique to try and make terrorists talk, but “OCdt Petal” is over-reacting?


Quite! If a bunch of cadets agree to try it out on each other (I don't know why they would), and it went too far, that's one thing. If 2 cadets jump a third, restrain him, and water board him until they think enough's enough- mm not looking so good for them...

CG

EXFIN 19th Aug 2018 20:11

Simply put, I joined as an Airman in July ‘81 & was lucky enough to be commissioned in August ‘85. As an Airman it was ‘Wanton damage’, as an Officer ‘High Spirits’!

mopardave 19th Aug 2018 21:10

Shame they didn't take such a robust view of the goings on at the Army Foundation College!

Lima Juliet 19th Aug 2018 22:19

Pretty sure I was waterboarded outside the Animal House with Keo and Brandy Sours - just my recollection is a bit hazy....:cool:

Krystal n chips 20th Aug 2018 09:08

" I wonder if the accused have their hearing checks up to date.

That was my experience of RAF police interrogation methods in the 80's.

Sorry what's that you said
?"

Ah, they had clearly changed their questioning techniques from the "softly softly " approach in the 70's, possibly because asking such inane questions as "do you know what an M.U is ?.....well sort of as I'm based on one...."why are your jeans faded ?"..erm, it's the current fashion perhaps " how often do you shower ?".....depends on how often I get covered in fuel and PRC doing Lightning fuel leaks really....quite frequently actually....and "why do you have bulk soap powder and soap / shampoo supplies "?...living out of a suitcase in a transit block every day may give you a clue here...... didn't really work that well. The immortal words of C/T Ben C of 71 MU infamy ( banned from at least 3 Messes ) come to mind here " don't sign anything......pause....and don't deck them ! "

I got the impression they had finally realised their error when the F/S plod took exception to being called.... sunshine


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