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GLIDER 90 7th Aug 2018 17:08

RAF Fastjet Flying Nonstop?
 
Hello All

With seeing the one show last night about the F-35s crossing the Atlantic to the UK. It said the pilots were flying 10 hours nonstop, how does a single seat pilot manage in all that time without being able to move about etc? I thought it bad enough on some uk airlines!!

SASless 7th Aug 2018 17:33

How does a Glider Pilot do the same when doing long cross country flights?

GLIDER 90 7th Aug 2018 17:56

Grin & bear it!!

sycamore 7th Aug 2018 18:12

G90,they obviously didn`t discuss the little known facts about the reclining ejection seat.In a long cruise there is a selector on the side of the seat that will allow the seat to recline 40 degrees back,at the same time,moving the rudder pedals out of the way.The Autopilot is linked to the controlling tanker,so the aircraft will follow it,so that the pilot can have a rest/sleep;there is also an electric blind that will cover the inside of the cockpit,preventing all those nasty cosmic rays.When it`s time for lunch/refuel time ,there is a gentle audio `bing-bong`,but if that doesn`t work,then there is a `seat-shaker` alarm.The blinds are withdrawn and the pilot can then have his lunch,curtesy of a little tray that folds up/down on the cockpit side,and a little white box appears with crispy sandwiches,hard-tack biscuits,chewing gum,and `Walkers crisps`.Also not mentioned is that the pilots also have a `catheter` fitted before flight,and of course a large `nappy` to cater for the inevitable.They can of course program one of the cockpit displays to watch CNN/FOX overseas,or BBC/ITV/SKY,ETC,or connect their Xbox and play games if they are bored.If it`s a night flight,then they can always have an audio bed-time story......

Linedog 7th Aug 2018 18:21


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10217466)
G90,they obviously didn`t discuss the little known facts about the reclining ejection seat.In a long cruise there is a selector on the side of the seat that will allow the seat to recline 40 degrees back,at the same time,moving the rudder pedals out of the way.The Autopilot is linked to the controlling tanker,so the aircraft will follow it,so that the pilot can have a rest/sleep;there is also an electric blind that will cover the inside of the cockpit,preventing all those nasty cosmic rays.When it`s time for lunch/refuel time ,there is a gentle audio `bing-bong`,but if that doesn`t work,then there is a `seat-shaker` alarm.The blinds are withdrawn and the pilot can then have his lunch,curtesy of a little tray that folds up/down on the cockpit side,and a little white box appears with crispy sandwiches,hard-tack biscuits,chewing gum,and `Walkers crisps`.Also not mentioned is that the pilots also have a `catheter` fitted before flight,and of course a large `nappy` to cater for the inevitable.They can of course program one of the cockpit displays to watch CNN/FOX overseas,or BBC/ITV/SKY,ETC,or connect their Xbox and play games if they are bored.If it`s a night flight,then they can always have an audio bed-time story......

Sycamore, you forgot to include the inflight "relief service."

sycamore 7th Aug 2018 18:29

Catheter and nappy,or did you mean set the seat-shaker to `high`...?

MPN11 7th Aug 2018 18:44

It is of note, in this context, that the Corsair had a pull-out tray table under the instrument panel. Useful for in-flight dining, but apparently intended for working with charts.

GLIDER 90 7th Aug 2018 18:50

But what about the days with Buccaneers, Lightnings, Phantoms etc that were going to Cyprus or Gan?

MPN11 7th Aug 2018 18:52


Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 (Post 10217507)
But what about the days with Buccaneers, Lightnings, Phantoms etc that were going to Cyprus or Gan?

Pee Tube and a Scran Bag, surely?

57mm 7th Aug 2018 19:25

Piddle pack and lunchbox. If piddle pack unused, sponge v good for car washing.

rolling20 7th Aug 2018 20:10

WW2, many Lanc pilots on ops used to kneel on their seat, slide open the window and let the slipstream do the rest. They didn’t trust the tube provided for the use of, due to icing. One would have thought any ice would have melted fairly quickly!

wiggy 7th Aug 2018 20:11


Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 (Post 10217507)
But what about the days with Buccaneers, Lightnings, Phantoms etc that were going to Cyprus or Gan?

You also had some long missions off QRA..I have a 6hrs 30 (night) F-4 “mission” in the logbook where we got launched with no notice so no sarnies.......that said as I recall it the guys involved in shifting F-4s at various times between the Falkland Islands/Ascension/U.K. clocked some fairly impressive “sectors”...

As was said it was and I guess still is a case of grin and bear it....

NutLoose 7th Aug 2018 20:38


Originally Posted by Linedog (Post 10217472)
Sycamore, you forgot to include the inflight "relief service."

Funnily enough, we I believe had a used condom found under the seat after one such flight, it was returned to the said pilot during a dining in night :E

Harley Quinn 8th Aug 2018 05:18

Didn't UK based Tornado deliver weapons during the Libyan thing? There and back?

rolling20 8th Aug 2018 06:44

F-111s flew non stop from UK bases to hit Libya in 1986, after the French, Spanish and Italians denied them overflights.

kenparry 8th Aug 2018 07:06


Didn't UK based Tornado deliver weapons during the Libyan thing? There and back?
No.

Detached to a base in Italy.

BEagle 8th Aug 2018 07:08

I seem to recall reading that the emptying of Lancaster Elsans over Berlin resulted in German claims that the RAF was indulging in chemical warfare...

Pontius Navigator 8th Aug 2018 07:10

It is really a question of preparation. You would be foolish to drink endless coffee when on Q or pre-flight. We were encouraged to eat low fat, no beans food before flight. In-flight sarnies were supposed to be bite size.

Of course some catering units, unused to aircrew rations could cock up in spades. In particular, bottles of undiluted squash, hard boiled eggs in shells, oranges, bananas (not much better), cups of tinned mixed fruit.

Kitbag 8th Aug 2018 07:33


Originally Posted by kenparry (Post 10217946)
No.

Detached to a base in Italy.

I think IX(B) would disagree with you Ken

Second longest sorties by RAF aircraft.

rolling20 8th Aug 2018 07:43


Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator (Post 10217951)
Of course some catering units, unused to aircrew rations could cock up in spades. In particular, bottles of undiluted squash, hard boiled eggs in shells, oranges, bananas (not much better), cups of tinned mixed fruit.

I think it was out of Lossiemouth on an Andover, the aircraft was furnished with a delicious platter of sandwiches for the day ahead. The crew I was with enjoyed them so much, the nav wrote a note as a thank you. I assumed from that that flying rations weren't usually up to much?


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