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Innominate 9th Aug 2018 08:09


Doctors in hospitals also favour short sleeves.
I believe this was a recent NHS directive to help prevent infections being spread via clothing.

The Oberon 9th Aug 2018 09:10


Originally Posted by Innominate (Post 10218934)
I believe this was a recent NHS directive to help prevent infections being spread via clothing.

As is no ties.

Tankertrashnav 9th Aug 2018 09:58


You will remember however that officers had to wear long sleeves in the tropics after 6.
You will no doubt recall the tale of the bar in the mess at Tengah where a bunch of guys had been taking full advantage of happy hour. An officious senior officer unwisely pointed out that they should not be wearing shorts in the mess after 6pm, at which point they all removed their shorts and carried on drinking in their shreddies!

Bit of thread drift, but re short sleeves in hospitals, I heard a thing on Radio 4 this morning that hospital workers with beards are less likely to spread infections such as MRSA, norovirus, etc than those who are clean shaven. No idea why this should be, but as a beardie who gets fed up hearing that beards are unhygienic I was quite pleased to hear the item.

Back to RAF shirts now!

MPN11 9th Aug 2018 10:08

In summer at MoD I regularly wore civvy short-sleeved shirts of assorted colours (with tie) under my suit. In office, discarded jacket and got on with work. Nobody ever commented. Jacket on when called in to 1* and above, of course!

BEagle 9th Aug 2018 15:47

Short sleeve shirts with ties? Dear me no - how horribly American.

Tankertrashnav 9th Aug 2018 16:39

How sensible MPN11 !

MPN11 9th Aug 2018 18:42

Opinion is clearly divided :)

I rate operational efficiency higher than sartorial perfection, although I also do the latter :D

Maxibon 9th Aug 2018 18:59

For once I actually agree with Beagle.

Melchett01 9th Aug 2018 19:19


Originally Posted by Lima Juliet (Post 10218517)


I have one - lovely shirt but wrong shade of light blue, sadly.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...2851d3589f.jpg


I wouldn’t worry about the shade - my first 1-Star never did. He had tailored shirts from Hong Kong that were so pale they weren’t that far from off-white.

As for me, if I’m in civilian attire and heading into MoD I’ll usually go for a suit, but in hot weather have been known to turn up in a rather fetching very soft gingham open collared shirt with sleeves turned up to mid-forearm, chinos and whatever footwear I can find in the wardrobe that goes. Nobody batted an eyelid and I found it amusing watching the suited and booted brigade clearly only a couple of steps from heatstroke with their ties done up on the hottest day of the year. As the great Billy Connolly said, there’s no such thing as the wrong weather, just the wrong clothes.


Pontius Navigator 9th Aug 2018 19:54


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 10219036)
You will no doubt recall the tale of the bar in the mess at Tengah where a bunch of guys had been taking full advantage of happy hour. An officious senior officer unwisely pointed out that they should not be wearing shorts in the mess after 6pm, !

Similar situation at Butterworth. A young PN, and a lot lighter than now, was similarly out of order when a pair of hands from behind lifted me up by the elbows. It was the Base Commander, a diminutive Aussie who whispered in my ear "You and I Sir are incorrectly dress, I suggest we rectify that matter"

Put like that PN agreed it was a good idea and returned a few minutes later in slacks, long sleeves shirt (white as there was no other colour) and sqn the (and no other).

The Oberon 10th Aug 2018 04:42

Shirts and ties, always a problem. I remember when the round necked Woolly Pully was introduced. It took weeks to sort out if it was to be with/without tie and shirt collar points inside the neck band or outside. It changed almost on a weekly basis at Scampton. I still can't remember what the final format was.

BEagle 10th Aug 2018 06:44

At Scampton, OC35 found a way around the collar in/out / with/without tie problem for the woolly pully - he didn't bother with a shirt.

617's pilot leader joked that we should wear wings on our woolly pullys - someone in the Air Box took him seriously and that's why the order came out requiring us to have them stitched on...

Unfortunately the smart barathea No2 had been replaced by that dreadful Thunderbirds jacket thing, so most people went for the woolly pully + giant moth option.

Lima Juliet 17th Aug 2018 17:42

Heard on the grapevine today that a 65% Cotton shirt is on its way with a thicker material. Understood to be in stock maybe by Christmas - ho, ho, ho...

So that is good news, just need to sort the rest of the ensemble :ok:

MPN11 17th Aug 2018 19:40

Yet another shirt variation to be seen, then!
I recall the 70s, when there must have been 6 different variants ... and that was before the short-sleeves came in [in various shades of blue].

NRU74 17th Aug 2018 19:45

[QUOTEUnfortunately the smart barathea No2 had been replaced by that dreadful Thunderbirds jacket thing, so most people went for the woolly pully + giant moth option.[/QUOTE]

The first many of us saw of this particular jacket was in c1976 when the, then, and later quasi infamous, Gp Capt Peter Harding arrived at Brüggen wearing the same.

staircase 17th Aug 2018 20:29

'the, then, and later quasi infamous'?

I am intrigued; do tell why.

MPN11 18th Aug 2018 07:45


Originally Posted by staircase (Post 10226757)
'the, then, and later quasi infamous'?

I am intrigued; do tell why.

His Wiki will reveal all ;)

staircase 20th Aug 2018 10:15

Ahh, you were thinking of Peter Robin Harding, and I was thinking of Peter John, whom I always thought a pretty decent sort of chap.

NutLoose 20th Aug 2018 15:14

A case of the Buck stops here.....


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