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Taken at Honington in 1977. Skin infection, medically authorised, no chit. Allowed to fly unhindered. Then Boss not happy! Do not resemble that profile nowadays :uhoh:
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Surely that's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in his earlier days?
Ahmadinejinda' ? |
Ahmalinemess more like!
No probs with beards in the Services. But wouldn't advocate Prince Mike as any role model.:* |
Former kipper fleet members may remember a Welsh Nimrod captain who sported a very impressive beard |
Part of the February Carnival at Goose Bay was a beard growing competition. 2 airmen and 2 SNCOs allowed to grow a set. They had to be clean shaven 28 days before the event, I can't remember what the prize was but you could probably drink it.
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Originally Posted by The Oberon
(Post 10146118)
Part of the February Carnival at Goose Bay was a beard growing competition. 2 airmen and 2 SNCOs allowed to grow a set. They had to be clean shaven 28 days before the event, I can't remember what the prize was but you could probably drink it.
Rule 2 - get anyone with longer beard detached even for the day :) |
Its all to do with partial pressure of O2 required to flash burn the rotten food and other deposits in said facial hair ... I suppose you could say you could have a beard but enforce a degreasing wash of the facial hair before flight. |
Had my beard from 83 till 96 in the mob and kept it through civil flying till 04 and still have one today just a lot greyer. |
In the 70s my Father was allowed to grow a beard and his hair before going to Republic of Ireland to visit family. I have some pics of him at the time looking curiously rakish. Hair wasn't very much longer than service length, just enough to not stand out as a British serviceman when in the South. "Modified Grooming Standards" I believe was the provision.
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
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I suggested that if she was like most women she would probably only wash her hair every 3 - 4 days <snip>. |
Check out your local Boots or similar. Shower caps still on the shelves. Mrs TTN has very long hair and washes hers about every 3 days as it takes an age to dry. It's straight, so she hasnt "had it done" (other than cut occasionally) once in the 50 years I've known her - just brushes/combs it herself.
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Originally Posted by cats_five
(Post 10147569)
A great many women wash their hair every day. The days of having it 'done' once a week and not washing it in-between ended some time in the 80s
Like cigarette smoke we must have stunk. Although we had 3 flying suits, one was for QRA/Flying, one all badged up for 'best' , and one temperate climate suit. It needed Flying Clothing to remove the knife before laundering so that was a rare event too. Luxury was the post-flight shower and big fluffy towels provided by the Flying Clothing team - not everyone availed themselves of this freebie. |
I remember reading somewhere Pontius, that it wasn’t until the Yanks came over here in WW2 , that we got into the habit of bathing more than once a week. My 8th Army veteran grandfather, often talked with affection of the time he was able to use a mobile Yankee Bath unit in Italy. He never mentioned the facilities that the 8th Army provided however. |
Originally Posted by Old-Duffer
(Post 10144943)
If male personnel are allowed beards because it would be religious discrimination not to allow them, then it will be sexual discrimination if females weren't allowed beards.
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A long, long time ago in a far away universe, I remember a 33 Sqn pilot with beard. |
A very modern 'major general'?
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Recent photo of Prince Henry The Duke of Kent looks really happy to attend this event. However, I think that he needs to go back to basic officer training to learn how to tie his tie and to salute properly. He should have been airbrushed out of the picture. What military regulation enables Prince Henry to wear a full beard whilst in RAF uniform? What are the shoulder titles that he is wearing on that uniform? RAF Regiment? Why does he wear a sword belt sans sword, scabbard and scabbard slings? Why does he wear army wings on his ceremonial RAF uniform? |
Air Commandant RAF Honington.
I remember years ago that Boots Griffiths, at Air Commandant also wore shoulder boards even as he had been a GD/P. |
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The precedent for beards was set in the mid 30s when KGV was MRAF. I understand that regardless of uniform, the wings worn are the ones belonging to the service in which they were awarded. Army for Prince Harry, RAF for Prince William and RN for Prince Andrew. |
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I was on the last Jag Major at Abingdon & I was wondering about the new style of Kimwipe that we got from stores!! |
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
(Post 10293603)
Air Commandant RAF Honington.
I remember years ago that Boots Griffiths, at Air Commandant also wore shoulder boards even as he had been a GD/P. |
On Wings (sorry BEags - "The Flying Badge") not beards.
I once had to research the rules on Wings on Uniforms for a specific case - this was about 15-20 years ago so I don't know if still true. Can't remember the reference either - maybe P1 ceremonial? - but I do recall the answer was as follows: Army and RAF Wings only may be worn on RAF or Army uniforms. RN Wings may be worn on neither. RN Wings may be worn on RN or RM uniforms only. Army Wings may be worn on RM uniforms. Never did get the answer about RAF wings on RM ............ So Harry Sussex's wings are kosher - not so sure about the face fungus though. |
Regarding #56,
(a) Harry's RAF Uniform fits like an old sack ("nice bit of stuff - when are you going to have it made up ?") (b) When I was serving, beards were a no-no (Kings excepted !) Only exception I ever knew: in India on the RAF Ski School in Kashmir it was so cold that we were allowed to grow for the duration of the month's Course (results were varied). (c) The ?-star chap appearing behind Harry and Megan clearly shows his disgust of the whole proceedings ! (d) I take it that the rest of the party are all RAAF (??) So have they given up that rich dark blue they used to wear ? Just asking. |
Me thinks that sour puss in the rear is just showing his envy for the fine Bird that young man has pulled!
He also is considering there is Rank....and there is Rank and he is very much down on the Totem Pole as compared to Junior.:uhoh: |
Originally Posted by Danny42C
(Post 10293896)
(c) The ?-star chap appearing behind Harry and Megan clearly shows his disgust of the whole proceedings !
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Could it be that Harry has declined to join Kent's merry band of fellows with the funny handshakes?
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Give the Duke of Kent a break - poor chap suffered a stroke a few years ago and is in his 80s now.
Prince Harry is one of those people who always seems to look ill-at-ease in formal clothes or uniforms and that face fungus does him no favours. I see the Royal Family still refuses to use the Windsor knot - even though it's required in the AP for RAF uniforms. But I guess when it's Harry's grandmother's train set, they're allowed some leeway. I recall the Admin Order for those attending the Silver Jubilee parade at Finningley in 1977 required Officers to wear gold cuff links with their shirts. I doubt whether the same applied to Sleepy Fred - and I'm glad that I managed to escape it. |
Could it be that Harry has declined to join Kent's merry band of fellows with the funny handshakes? When I was a rockape the depot was at Catterick and although the station commander was referred to as the commandant there was no such post as Honorary Air Commandant, the appointment currently held by Prince Harry. At the time the position of Commandant General of the RAF Regiment was normally held by a two star GD officer, the most senior regiment officer being an air commodore. In my time I remember the CG was AVM Bernard Chacksfield, who was a GD (P) and he certainly wore regiment flashes. |
Wings badge on Military uniforms
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TTN, as Commandant is a post not a rank I think they made Harry a Commandant as he does not have sufficient seniority to be a Commodore. When it was first introduced there were enough senior Royals.
However I see he is a Naval Commodore. Edward is a Colonel and also a Commodore at Waddington, so I am not sure. The link is a fascinating summary of military service. I wonder why Andrew has so few medals compared with his younger brother. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service_by_British_royalty |
Originally Posted by Bob Viking
(Post 10144665)
Thats just not true I’m afraid. Trust me.
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I am led to believe that the rules for beards (when the RAF get around to allowing them) will be that the individual has to take two weeks off to allow for the full set to grow (can't have people at work looking unkempt). If on return to duty the facial hair does not past muster - SWO's inspection? - scrape it off. And the same rules will apply to the men!
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
(Post 10294343)
The link is a fascinating summary of military service. I wonder why Andrew has so few medals compared with his younger brother.
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Perhaps mummy won't allow him to wear golfing medals☺
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P-N - Actually there is little disparity the two brothers' medals. To summarise, Andy now has 7 British orders and medals, including the South Atlantic Medal with rosette, and three Commonwealth awards, but he also has 3 foreign awards which would only be worn on certain occasions. Edward has four British medals and six from the Commonwealth but as far as I can discover no foreign awards so far.
Checking my figures for these I also discovered that Prince Edward is Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Waddington. |
TTN, joke, but thanks for the update, clearly Wiki is selective as lower down the page there are obviously many omissions.
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I’m slightly surprised by the generousity of the Canadians, awarding medals and Coloncies/Colonelcies in all directions. |
I had a coloncy thing a couple of years ago,
Pain in the ar^e it was. |
Looks like new policy wef 1 Sep 19 - same rules as the Navy. IBN to follow.
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I am amazed that this gem from 1982 hasn't surfaced in this thread yet! Moggy - are you still out there?
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Originally Posted by goudie
(Post 10143234)
For some reason, which I cannot fathom, beards seem to suit navy types but not, I think, those in the RAF or Army. |
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