Agree. The stuff that damaged our manufacturing base so badly in the 1980s, when investment was required and exactly the opposite happened.

Almost like magik the way a counter point to your suicide inducing negativity gets removed allowing you carry on regardless..

:D

Awful Home Sec’,pandered to vested interests, met none of her own ‘unachievable’ targets, apart from hacking the judiciary & police services to pieces. Even worse as a ‘Zombie’ PM,nominally in charge of a zombie government, there only because nobody wants the poison chalice. Is surrounded by a few lickspittles & even more incompetent slimes who she is too weak to sack.Other than that she’s just peachy 😃 Has given gongs to curry favour,see whose been enobled from The 1922 Committee.

sorry, glad rag - I could hardly get a post in between your pages of helpful, constructive and insightful observations and suggestions:E

You are more than welcome.

:p

Well, reported on the 5th Jan 18 that Mrs May has decided to delay the Defence review by "months". This seems to be a stalling measure because Gavin Williamson has claimed he needs more time to study the problems and the "£20B" black hole in defence budget. It is reported that there is a huge divide between the views of Hammond and Williamson. :rolleyes:
It does seem to me that, it is unlikely Williamson will avoid the financial cuts. However, it is possible that the extra time will allow some focused redefinition of UK Defence needs that avoids the gradual hollowing-out of all capabilities. :oh:

OAP

Sad to say this lifelong Tory voter agrees with you.
Me and lots like me. However, if its to stop the Trots, I dare say we will do as we have always done.
Sod it.

History does seem to repeat itself. There are a lot of parallels now to the Major government in the mid 90's. A weak, ineffectual "leader", a voting minority in the Commons, a lack of "equality" in society both perceived & in reality, in-fighting within the Conservative party (as I seem to recall over Europe) & a dose of sleaze thrown in for good measure. We all know what happened next. Jeremy just needs to bide his time.

Hmmm. If you mean that the Conservative party has not done as well as it might, who could argue? However, if you mean that history shows the British public will elect a far-left led Labour party.....:oh:

OAP

Today's Times says that they're still looking at a £ 20Bn hole forecast over the next 10 years in the defence budget and so the National Security Review will be published without the military bit being decided....................

I guess that will just cover police and border type security?

OAP

says there are 12 "strands" including the military - so all the buzz words I guess....

"The national security capability review was launched last summer to consider the changing nature of the threats posed to the UK in the face of an upsurge in Islamist terrorism and cyber warfare from hostile states such as Russia and North Korea. In total it is considering 12 areas of security, including counter terrorism, cyber threats and international aid"

Whether you choose to believe Mrs May or not, does anyone seriously maintain that a Corbyn government would improve defence?

Shot

Agree your drift. But there will be very many who either do, or quite simply don't care - until it's needed, that is.