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haltonapp 12th Dec 2017 16:53

Scottish Income Tax
 
If the Scottish government raises income tax tomorrow will those servicemen and women posted to Scotland have to pay the higher tax?

Chinny Crewman 12th Dec 2017 18:07

Yes but there are exceptions. The following DIN has all the details;

2015DIN01-215

Party Animal 12th Dec 2017 19:01

Those in the higher tax bracket already do - and have done for some time!!

The Old Fat One 12th Dec 2017 19:44

I confess that it surprises me that more has not been made of this...or is there something I don't know?

tbh, retired and living in Scotland it does not really bother me paying a wee bit more tax, but I think it would if I was still serving.

taxydual 12th Dec 2017 19:47

Wade through this lot

https://www.parliament.uk/documents/...lesofunion.pdf

See if you've got a case.

Good Luck.

Timelord 12th Dec 2017 20:07

The Conservative MP for Moray, and therefore Lossiemouth, Douglas Ross is on this case and I'm sure he would be glad to hear from anyone, particularly those still serving, who have strong opinions on this. Contact details are available on parliament website.

Always a Sapper 12th Dec 2017 22:38

What happens if you live on the English side of the border, are employed by a company headquartered in say London but do most of your work in Scotland?

Same goes but other way round?

Going to be a bit like the wee kranky putting additional tax on wines, beers and spirits....

Timelord 12th Dec 2017 22:43


Originally Posted by Always a Sapper (Post 9988197)
What happens if you live on the English side of the border, are employed by a company headquartered in say London but do most of your work in Scotland?

Same goes but other way round?

Going to be a bit like the wee kranky putting additional tax on wines, beers and spirits....

It's all about your address. If I had the money I'd buy a block of flats in Berwick and rent them to Edinburgh high earners.

newt 13th Dec 2017 04:56

I’m fed up with the SNP! When are the Scots going to come to their senses and stop this nonsense?

Heathrow Harry 13th Dec 2017 07:32

probably when the English stop telling them what is good for them........

The SNP are set for a fall but their rise was due to the fact that Scots never felt that the UK Govt and especially the Tory Party , ever listened to their concerns.......

newt 13th Dec 2017 09:23

Maybe we should withdraw the Barnett formula! Then they have good cause to not feel part of the U.K.!

Avionker 13th Dec 2017 09:41


Originally Posted by newt (Post 9988392)
I’m fed up with the SNP! When are the Scots going to come to their senses and stop this nonsense?

Could you be any more patronising?

Do you live in Scotland? If so you had your chance to vote. If you don’t , and I don’t believe you do, then why does it concern you?

The people of Scotland voted the SNP into power in democratic elections. At the next Holyrood elections the people of Scotland will decide who is fit to form the Scottish government, and quite frankly the way Brexit is been handled I would not be surprised if the SNP retained their mandate.

melmothtw 13th Dec 2017 09:55

I would suggest that if you live or work in a particular country, then you pay the taxes that are due in that particular country. It's not difficult.

Timelord 13th Dec 2017 10:11


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 9988635)
I would suggest that if you live or work in a particular country, then you pay the taxes that are due in that particular country. It's not difficult.

I don't remember paying German taxes all the years I was posted there, or paying no tax when on ops in some other countries.

melmothtw 13th Dec 2017 10:16

Fair dos. My comment was a more general response to newt's references to the SNP and the Barnett formula.

As to UK forces in Scotland, I guess they'll just have to pay at the rate that has been decided for them.

Bob Viking 13th Dec 2017 11:20

I wish I could have paid Canadian taxes for the 3.5 years I was based there.

I bet guys on loan service in Oman wish they could have paid Omani tax whilst they were there too.

That’s not the case though. All people serving in foreign countries are still subject to UK tax.

Why should service in Scotland be any different?

BV

melmothtw 13th Dec 2017 11:23

They are subject to UK tax (clue; Scotland is in the UK).

Clearly, the arrangements for all of the non-UK countries you list will not be the same as they will be for the UK country you name.

Blacksheep 13th Dec 2017 11:41

In the glory days when we were posted all over the world we paid our tax and national insurance at source, in UK. It had nothing to do with our address or where we worked, we were employed by the MOD and paid in Gloucester. The serviceman is paid to serve anywhere under standard contract conditions. When I worked as a consultant at Sabena Technics in Belgium in 2008 my salary was paid with UK tax and N.I. contributions deducted by the Agency here in UK and I was not subject to Belgian tax, it being the source of one's income that controls where tax is paid. For service personnel that source is not in Scotland. So to repeat, why should being posted to Scotland be any different?

melmothtw 13th Dec 2017 11:56


Originally Posted by Blacksheep (Post 9988738)
In the glory days when we were posted all over the world we paid our tax and national insurance at source, in UK. It had nothing to do with our address or where we worked, we were employed by the MOD and paid in Gloucester. So, why would being posted to Scotland be any different?

Maybe it's not. Has anyone actually checked?

Timelord 13th Dec 2017 12:08


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 9988754)
Maybe it's not. Has anyone actually checked?

Yes. As it currently stands if you have an address in Scotland you pay Scottish rates of tax. As someone has already said this has resulted in higher taxes for those earning over £43000 for some time now since the threshold was not raised in Scotland when it was for the rest of UK. In fairness it should also be stated that your Scottish address also gets your kids free university tuition and your wife free prescriptions. Perhaps the service person should get the option to chose.


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