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roving 26th Oct 2017 16:07

Wing Commander Andy Green to attempt World land speed record
 
Wing Commander Andy Green is a serving Royal Air Force Officer and former fast jet pilot. He intends to attempt to break the World Land Speed record with the "bloodhound supercar" powered by a Eurofighter jet engine.

Tests are taking place along the runway at Cornwall Airport today, Saturday and Monday, October 26, 28 and 30. The busiest day is expected to be the ticket-only public viewing on Saturday.

Andy Green | BLOODHOUND SSC

Supersonic car which aims to hit 1,000mph and smash world land speed record to be tested today in Cornwall - Plymouth Herald






BEagle 26th Oct 2017 16:17

Indeed!

The BBC showed Dead Dog's first run at St.Mawganewquay live today at lunchtime, so perhaps it'll also be on tonight's news.

Wander00 26th Oct 2017 16:33

Good luck to him and the team. Hope the wheels stay on the ground

Tankertrashnav 26th Oct 2017 17:02

Interesting fact from Andy, if the car does reach 1,000 mph it will not only beat the land speed record but will break the record held for aircraft at low level (not sure how low level is defined in that case)

air pig 26th Oct 2017 17:04

Such a shame and a tragedy that Air Cdr Jayne 'desert witch' Millington is not there with them but I'm sure she will be there in spirit. RiP.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...uary-jjlhn76xk

MPN11 26th Oct 2017 17:12

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Danny42C 26th Oct 2017 18:29

Hope it comes off - but it's: "poking a finger in the eye of Providence". Remember Donald Campbell !

just another jocky 26th Oct 2017 19:57


Originally Posted by roving (Post 9937331)
Wing Commander Andy Green is a serving Royal Air Force Officer and former fast jet pilot. He intends to attempt to break the World Land Speed record with the "bloodhound supercar" powered by a Eurofighter jet engine.

Isn't there a rocket engine in there too?

Lima Juliet 26th Oct 2017 20:25


Interesting fact from Andy, if the car does reach 1,000 mph it will not only beat the land speed record but will break the record held for aircraft at low level (not sure how low level is defined in that case)
Rephrase, to “would break the officially measured by the Guinness Book of Records low level aircraft” - I’m sure there are more than a few that have done 870kts+ at low level but were never ‘officially’ measured for record purposes. If you catch my drift...:cool:

Good luck Dead Dog, smash the record and get 1000 recorded officially :ok:

NutLoose 26th Oct 2017 20:38

Good luck to him, I often wondered why pick a pilot to drive a car and not say an F1 driver, after all operating a gas turbine engine is less of a up hill challenge than driving a car at speed, something your average F1 driver has been probably doing since he was seven.

andytug 26th Oct 2017 20:56

Watched a bit of the live feed over lunch, brakes got pretty hot.
Richard Nobles book is worth a read, amazing achievement with Thrust SSC. The bit that got me was after Thrust 2 they ran the numbers through a CFD computer and found that the aerodynamicists slide rule calculations were spot on, and also that if he'd gone about 20mph faster the thing would have flipped upwards at 45g.........

roving 26th Oct 2017 21:04

Posted today on youtube

FIRST EVER BLOODHOUND SSC PUBLIC RUN! - 200+MPH


drustsonoferp 26th Oct 2017 22:44

I've been looking forward to seeing her in motion for several years now. Good effort from the Army engineers, 71(IR)Sqn, and the RAF sootie i/c EJ200, in addition to the driver.

taxydual 26th Oct 2017 22:50

Hang on. Is the Tax Payer coughing up for Dead Dog to kill himself?

Rhino power 27th Oct 2017 02:22


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 9937567)
I often wondered why pick a pilot to drive a car and not say an F1 driver...

How many F1 drivers have any experience of travelling at 1,000mph on a fairly regular basis? Answer: none...

-RP

Rhino power 27th Oct 2017 02:29


Originally Posted by taxydual (Post 9937671)
Hang on. Is the Tax Payer coughing up for Dead Dog to kill himself?

No, it's a sponsor funded endeavour (to break the land speed record, not for Andy to kill himself...), and so what if the tax payer chips in, you miserable sod, it's good for GB and all the companies/sponsors involved!

-RP

The Oberon 27th Oct 2017 05:39


Originally Posted by Rhino power (Post 9937790)
No, it's a sponsor funded endeavour (to break the land speed record, not for Andy to kill himself...), and so what if the tax payer chips in, you miserable sod, it's good for GB and all the companies/sponsors involved!

-RP

This is Richard Noble's 4th. car. The second one, Thrust 2, was the first LSR car, which he drove himself. They ran out of cash towards the end of the project and he appealed for donations, £10.00 and you got your name Dymo taped inside one of the panels. Cash rolled in and he took the record for the first time. Apart from donations, no public money.

The 3rd. car Thrust SSC and the current one are sponsor financed.

PPRuNeUser0139 27th Oct 2017 07:10

While I join with the rest of you here in wishing Andy good luck with his quest to exceed 1000mph (before making an even quicker dash to the laundromat), I must admit that the wheel-driven LSR (currently standing at 458mph) is the one that does it for me.

DirtyProp 27th Oct 2017 08:19

All nice and dandy but I fail to see the point of this endeavor.

Hat, coat....

roving 27th Oct 2017 08:42


Originally Posted by DirtyProp (Post 9937952)
All nice and dandy but I fail to see the point of this endeavor.

Hat, coat....

Presumably your view would be the same in respect the ascent of Everest in Coronation Year and Felix Baumgartner's record breaking parachute descent from the edge of space in 2012.

campbeex 27th Oct 2017 08:45

The point of this endeavour...
 
Here you go, Dirtyprop....

Education | BLOODHOUND SSC

MAINJAFAD 27th Oct 2017 08:56


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 9937389)
Interesting fact from Andy, if the car does reach 1,000 mph it will not only beat the land speed record but will break the record held for aircraft at low level (not sure how low level is defined in that case)

Below 500ft AGL at least. Current record is 988 MPH by a modified Civil owned Starfighter in the mid 1970s done at 300ft AGL. FAI stopped the class after that as its pretty dangerous. Before the 1950's it was the official way of getting the ASR. The Starfighter may have reached 1013MPH, but that attempt couldn't be ratified due to a timing system fault.

BEagle 27th Oct 2017 09:03


Thrust SSC and the current one are sponsor financed.
Something around 20% of Thrust SSC's costs came from the Mach 1 Club, consisting of thousands of members of the general public. 'Gold' members of the Mach 1 club have their membership numbers painted on the side of the car in recognition of their contributions.

Tankertrashnav 27th Oct 2017 09:33


Originally Posted by DirtyProp View Post
All nice and dandy but I fail to see the point of this endeavor.

Hat, coat....
You can object to any record attempt I suppose but I rather like this one. Better than being the first man to walk backwards to the North Pole with a peanut balanced on your nose, or whatever the latest gimmick is! Good luck to him anyway

Martin the Martian 27th Oct 2017 10:01

"I fail to see the point of this endeavour."

Isn't that what was said to the first of our ancestors before he pulled himself out of the swamp onto dry land?

Molemot 27th Oct 2017 10:06

An in-cockpit video of the current supersonic record run, back in 1997...

https://youtu.be/zwh7Hlk6q1I

Cat Funt 27th Oct 2017 10:28


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 9938015)
Better than being the first man to walk backwards to the North Pole with a peanut balanced on your nose, or whatever the latest gimmick is!



Hold my beer! :}

ShotOne 27th Oct 2017 14:13

"I fail to see the point...". Even if you don't give two hoots about 1000 mph, surely you can see the point of inspiring and training a generation of young people such that they're capable of such things.

roving 27th Oct 2017 14:29

This being but one example ....





The Guinness World Record for a Model Rocket Car was broken 3 times in succession by 3 different cars on Friday 14th June 2013 at The Heathland School, Hounslow. After more than a year of design, build and preparation, 5 mixed teams raced single, double and triple motored rocket cars to smash the existing record of 88mph/142kph, achieving a whopping 204.95mph/329.85kph with their winning triple motored car.

Wander00 27th Oct 2017 14:36

If the project encourages more youngsters into science and engineering it is money brilliantly well spent, IMHO of course

The Oberon 27th Oct 2017 14:50


Originally Posted by roving (Post 9938314)
This being but one example ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzZhJWw_zjU


The Guinness World Record for a Model Rocket Car was broken 3 times in succession by 3 different cars on Friday 14th June 2013 at The Heathland School, Hounslow. After more than a year of design, build and preparation, 5 mixed teams raced single, double and triple motored rocket cars to smash the existing record of 88mph/142kph, achieving a whopping 204.95mph/329.85kph with their winning triple motored car.

Certainly beats the balsa and plastic Jetex car I built as a youngster.

roving 27th Oct 2017 15:07

Thanks to 'senior pilot' for encouraging me to research the correct way to post You Tube Videos.

The explanation on how that is done is provided here

http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...be-videos.html

rats404 27th Oct 2017 15:12

On the odd occasion when I've seen the team represented at events such as RIAT, they have been inundated with youngsters asking questions, playing with stuff etc.

One thing we need is the next generation of designers and engineers if we are not to become a country of cold calling ambulance chasing call centre operators. STEM and all that...

Good luck to them, it is inspiring, flies the flag, and it's really gutsy. The challenges of achieving 1000 mph on land are (to me at least) mind-boggling.

roving 27th Oct 2017 17:15

Inside the Bloodhound hybrid rocket,



Inside the cockpit


Tashengurt 27th Oct 2017 17:49

I paid to have my son's names put on the tail. They follow its progress and their engineer mum tells them about the processes involved.
It interests them, maybe it inspires them.
There's the point Dirtyprop

DirtyProp 27th Oct 2017 19:09

Point taken folks.
Cheers!

IcePaq 28th Oct 2017 00:44

Our street driven car went 292mph last friday............Full interior, A/C, often driven to work....etc.

Heathrow Harry 28th Oct 2017 09:13

"Presumably your view would be the same in respect the ascent of Everest in Coronation Year and Felix Baumgartner's record breaking parachute descent from the edge of space in 2012."

TBF they didn't revolutionise anything did they? Not saying people shouldn't do it and I'd even say the taxpayer could afford to kick in a few bob occasionaly certainly better than wasting money on hosting the Commonwealth or Olympic Games

roving 28th Oct 2017 09:13


Originally Posted by IcePaq (Post 9938770)
Our street driven car went 292mph last friday............Full interior, A/C, often driven to work....etc.

The auxiliary power unit for BLOODHOUND SSC drives the rocket oxidiser pump, which will supply 800 litres of high test peroxide (HTP) to the rocket in just 20 seconds: this is equivalent to 40 litres (over 9 gallons) every second.

The auxiliary power unit is a 550bhp Jaguar Supercharged V8 engine, lubricated by Castrol EDGE. The rocket will be a single monopropellant unit for the initial high speed runs (up to 800mph) and then a cluster of hybrid design rockets for the 1,000mph runs, both developed by Norwegian specialist Nammo.

Heathrow Harry 28th Oct 2017 09:16

You'd have got a lot of Green Stamps in the olden days for a fill-up like that......


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