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Onceapilot 10th Sep 2017 19:19

End of the 1%ers?
 
BBC Reporting that the 1% cap is about to be breached! :ok:

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Bob Viking 10th Sep 2017 19:29

For the police, nurses, prison officers...

No mention of the military yet. I'm sure they're just saving the best for last.

BV

Always a Sapper 10th Sep 2017 20:36

And the strikes will start with a vengeance when the 1% cap is dropped.

Question is, will we notice if DIO go on strike?

SilsoeSid 10th Sep 2017 22:12

Here's me thinking this thread was going to be about biker gangs :E

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 10th Sep 2017 22:54


Originally Posted by SilsoeSid (Post 9888039)
Here's me thinking this thread was going to be about biker gangs :E

Are they getting a pay rise too ? ;)

NEO

alfred_the_great 11th Sep 2017 06:53

I would presume that the cap will be lifted, but no new money: want a pay rise, either find the money in your current budget or cut even harder to fund it.

gijoe 11th Sep 2017 07:12


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 9887954)
For the police, nurses, prison officers...

No mention of the military yet. I'm sure they're just saving the best for last.

BV

The puke-inducing self-opinion that the RAF is better than everyone else and sense of self-entitlement is just amazing.

Those above will have make more 'operational' decisions than you will do in a lifetime - 24/7/365 - and not from a p*ss-stained chair in the corner of some mess whilst trying to do the DT crossword.

Bob Viking 11th Sep 2017 07:38

gijoe.

The fact you got what you said from what I said speaks volumes about your own sense of self worth.

Where did I say the military (I did not specify RAF) are more deserving than the others?

Probably time for your second cup of coffee I'd say.

BV

Onceapilot 11th Sep 2017 07:51


Originally Posted by alfred_the_great (Post 9888210)
I would presume that the cap will be lifted, but no new money: want a pay rise, either find the money in your current budget or cut even harder to fund it.

Well Great Alfred, You might be right! In the past, I was told by CAS that he "had a pot of money to spend and had to decide how much went on pay, how much on equipment etc" Methinks this was a somewhat simplistic statement! :rolleyes:

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TorqueOfTheDevil 11th Sep 2017 13:38


The puke-inducing self-opinion that the RAF is better than everyone else and sense of self-entitlement is just amazing.

Those above will have make more 'operational' decisions than you will do in a lifetime - 24/7/365 - and not from a p*ss-stained chair in the corner of some mess whilst trying to do the DT crossword.
He's trolling Bob - isn't he?

The Nip 11th Sep 2017 17:18


Originally Posted by gijoe (Post 9888229)
The puke-inducing self-opinion that the RAF is better than everyone else and sense of self-entitlement is just amazing.

Those above will have make more 'operational' decisions than you will do in a lifetime - 24/7/365 - and not from a p*ss-stained chair in the corner of some mess whilst trying to do the DT crossword.

I am guessing you failed your entrance exam. Some do and then go on to join the Pioneers.

Don't worry.

Training Risky 11th Sep 2017 20:02


Originally Posted by gijoe (Post 9888229)
The puke-inducing self-opinion that the RAF is better than everyone else and sense of self-entitlement is just amazing.

Those above will have make more 'operational' decisions than you will do in a lifetime - 24/7/365 - and not from a p*ss-stained chair in the corner of some mess whilst trying to do the DT crossword.

Ooooooooooooooooooh!

How right you are. I must admit, when I was getting rocketed by the Mahdi Army in Basra, I often lay on the ground thinking "mustn't grumble, at least I am not grappling with drunks in a town centre/A&E Dept!"

Herod 11th Sep 2017 20:12

Great! The troll has achieved his purpose. We now have the military at odds with the police and the NHS staff. Get a grip folks.

mopardave 11th Sep 2017 21:25


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 9887954)
For the police, nurses, prison officers...

No mention of the military yet. I'm sure they're just saving the best for last.

BV

I'm retired emergency services (and a two times flop at OASC!)......but don't lump me in with Gijoe! Some years, we didn't even get 1%....we got 0%! Personally speaking, I begrudge the military nothing......good luck! It's the w*nkers in Whitehall I have a problem with! "We're all in it together" and what was that other beauty that was rolled out from time to time about the bond or contract between public and the military, or whatever it was.......now that crap really is "puke inducing"!:ugh:

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 11th Sep 2017 21:49


Originally Posted by gijoe (Post 9888229)
Those above will have make more 'operational' decisions than you will do in a lifetime - 24/7/365 - and not from a p*ss-stained chair in the corner of some mess whilst trying to do the DT crossword.

Oh bu**er. I'm an ex Army pilot and I do the DT crossword (but not in too much of a mess or a p*ss stained chair). Now I've got no idea whether I'm a worthless s**t or a star. I also complete the crossword 7/365 but not 24.

Please help. Answers on a postcard etc.

NEO

AARON O'DICKYDIDO 12th Sep 2017 08:22

Onceapilot
 

In the past, I was told by CAS that he "had a pot of money to spend and had to decide how much went on pay, how much on equipment etc"
I would be surprised if he had a pot to piss in these days!

Aaron.

Tankertrashnav 12th Sep 2017 09:20

gijoe - you are Krystal and Chips and I claim my five pounds ;)

(No offence K & C!)

Onceapilot 12th Sep 2017 10:02

August CPI inflation 2.9%. I predict September will be 3+%. OK for pensions but, poor for those on 1%. :uhoh:

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Melchett01 12th Sep 2017 12:55


Originally Posted by alfred_the_great (Post 9888210)
I would presume that the cap will be lifted, but no new money: want a pay rise, either find the money in your current budget or cut even harder to fund it.

Spot on, but that seems to be buried in the small print of today's announcement for Police and Prison Officers, as well as still being significantly lower than inflation. That hasn't stopped the Government putting a positive spin on things.

Also 'buried in the small print' was a statement carried by the BBC from Liz Truss that suggests public sector shouldn't get used to +1% rises:


Treasury minister Liz Truss said hard-working public sector workers deserved to be "fairly rewarded".

While pay discipline would need to continue for many years, she said, ministers would give special consideration in future awards to areas of the public sector where there were staff shortages
Taken at face value, that suggests to me that pay rises will be kept at 1% unless there is a compelling reason for short term increases above that level. If that happens it runs the risk of pay rises being used purely as a tool to aid recruiting & retention rather than in recognition of the knowledge, skills and demands of a job, and actually paves a way for pay freezes in times where numbers are deemed healthy or acceptable, or at best targeted at specific cohorts.

Call me a cynic for suggesting that, but you just know that some policy type in Whitehall is probably already doing the calculations on where to draw that line and how much they can save by doing it whilst simultaneously being able to claim support for the public sector. I don't see the unions buying into it, and I still think choppy waters lie ahead in coming months.

Onceapilot 12th Sep 2017 15:20

Well, having apparently decided that BREXIT "is worth it", I am a little surprised that the UK population are unprepared for the financial reality of our future.:bored:

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