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TBM-Legend 17th Aug 2017 12:43

More than likely a QA issue with engine overhauler or parts supplier that they use. Not aware that other aircraft are grounded..

BEagle 17th Aug 2017 12:52

I only heard the last few minutes of the segment on the Jeremy Whine show, but who on earth was that daft Epstein woman? Top marks to Geoff Brindle for keeping his cool when faced with such a ridiculous debate.

What exactly is the issue? Still nothing on the BBMF website, despite very strong interest in the situation...

PDR1 17th Aug 2017 13:03

The silence is another indicator that it could be a contractual/QA/procedural issue which could well end up in a court...

PDR

ACW342 17th Aug 2017 13:20

Wouldn't be the same industrial group responsible for the maintenance (or lack thereof) of the technically sophisticated Air Cadet Glider fleet perhaps?

Nige321 17th Aug 2017 13:26


Originally Posted by ACW342 (Post 9864765)
Wouldn't be the same industrial group responsible for the maintenance (or lack thereof) of the technically sophisticated Air Cadet Glider fleet perhaps?

Err... No...:=

ACW342 17th Aug 2017 13:39

Thought not. There's been no hint of legal action in that particular mess. How DO they get away with it?

Arclite01 17th Aug 2017 14:20

SERCO

SERCO was always controversial. In the late 80's early 90's while I was working at MoD many Contracts were market tested and many MoD contracts were lost to SERCO. There was a lot of suspicion at the time of how SERCO were managing to win so many Contracts. SERCO brand starts just before all the market testing, and Mrs Thatchers privatization of many Government services, on the board of directors at SERCO - a Mr Dennis Thatcher!!

Related ??...............or just a co-incidence ?

Arc

Prangster 17th Aug 2017 14:51

Red on, green on: Conclusion
 
Jump! Lets wait for facts

cats_five 17th Aug 2017 15:18


Originally Posted by Jetscream 32 (Post 9864478)
...
nobody likes the sound of silence when airborne other than glider pilots.....
...

No, we like the scream of the vario telling us we are in a 10-knot climb or the sound of a glider flying fast, either between thermals or along a wave bar. :)

BEagle 17th Aug 2017 15:27

Please confine Air Cadet comments to the relevant thread, chaps/chapesses/chapthings...

RETRO TRACK & AIR (U.K.) Ltd would seem to be the company responsible for the overhaul of BBMF Merlins.

I also found this 'official' BBMF statement:


A routine inspection has highlighted a fault with one of the Merlin engines in a Hurricane aircraft. We are currently investigating the fault and as a precaution, flying of Merlin engine powered aircraft has been paused. We are still operating Griffon & Gypsy powered aircraft, including Spitfires and Chipmunks. We realise the disappointment this will be to our many supporters, however safety remains our paramount concern
One of the engines in a Hurricane....:confused:

Innominate 17th Aug 2017 15:47


One of the engines in a Hurricane....http://cdn.pprune.org/images/smilies/confused.gif
I take BEagle's point, but look at it this way:
  1. BBMF has several Merlin engines;
  2. A fault has been found in one of them;
  3. That engine is in a Hurricane.

Simples...

aw ditor 17th Aug 2017 16:53

Shuttleworth now has three Hurricanes resident'. Are they similarly affected?

skippedonce 17th Aug 2017 17:05

Having been fortunate enough to visit Retro on a couple of occasions a few years ago (2010), I'd be surprised if they're at fault, as I found them to be a highly professional, well-motivated and enthusiastic bunch.

markstott 17th Aug 2017 17:39

You could always try Andrew Dixon who has access to a privately owned Dakota based at Dunsfold.


mark stott

jonw66 17th Aug 2017 18:19

Could always let the engineers get on with the job

Jetscream 32 17th Aug 2017 18:27


Originally Posted by jonw66 (Post 9865007)
Could always let the engineers get on with the job

Exactly, it all sounds completely blown out of proportion.... ie. on engine being torn down for overhaul or during inspection as part of overhaul, hairline crack or fatigue found on skew gear...(if it is indeed that) - so much easier to ground all engines and inspect all due to outcome of problem if one fails...

This is a standard AD equivalent with absolutely no real news, yes its a shame it has been found mid display season... but top marks for finding it whatever it is and pro actively doing something about it to keep the airframes and crew safe..

Its not really a story, but im sure some dufus will use it as tool to stop the tax payer trying to fund it!!

captainsmiffy 17th Aug 2017 19:08

Surely if it all went quiet up front....no problem...i've seen Dunkirk and the engine out performance of even a Mk 1 Spitfire is just incredible......

unclenelli 17th Aug 2017 19:26

Daily Mail reporting a problem with a Hurricane Merlin engine "pin"
The Lanc was recently overhauled at Duxford - surely would have been spotted unless overhaul didn't include 4x engines

OwnNav 17th Aug 2017 21:00

'Just Jane' to the rescue again ?

AGS Man 17th Aug 2017 21:15

Whatever the problem is better safe than sorry!


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