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ORAC 4th Nov 2017 13:05

That’s OK - the world is full of religious sects who are truly sorry I do not believe that their god exists and is willing to do anything, including killing me to save my immortal soul, as well as those who believe the world was created around 6000 years ago. I am happy to differ, everybody, as they say, is entitle t9 their own stupid opinion.

Until, that is, you try and impose your beliefs on the society I belong to and to affect the way others treat me, based on nothing but your belief and against those of the experts in the field.

George K Lee 4th Nov 2017 13:28

Kinda funny that all this stuff comes from a bloke (other posts make this pretty clear) who uses the name of a lovestruck teenage girl on PPrune...

Two's in 4th Nov 2017 13:36


I imagine you may not accept it but I truly feel embarrassed that we do not provide you with the mental health support that you need.
Is it too early for the "most retarded ignorant bile in a thread" award this year? If not this is definitely a winner. That or it's a Russian bot...

ORAC 4th Nov 2017 13:46


Kinda funny that all this stuff comes from a bloke (other posts make this pretty clear) who uses the name of a lovestruck teenage girl on PPRuNe...
Makes you wonder who needs the help....

West Coast 4th Nov 2017 16:57


am happy to differ, everybody, as they say, is entitle t9 their own stupid opinion.
As you’re outside the mainstream of society seeking acceptance, I would expect a little more acceptance of others beyond “stupid opinion”.

ORAC 4th Nov 2017 18:17

West Coast, if that’s mainstream, include me out - as they say.

I was abbreviating a well known quote by Harlan Ellison.

“Everybody has opinions: I have them, you have them. And we are all told from the moment we open our eyes, that everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. Well, that's horsepuckey, of course. We are not entitled to our opinions; we are entitled to our informed opinions. Without research, without background, without understanding, it's nothing. It's just bibble-babble. It's like a fart in a wind tunnel, folks.”

West Coast 4th Nov 2017 18:51

My quote stands, on solid ground as well.

You choose to ostracize one segment of society, yet you yearn to be accepted, ironic.

ORAC 12th Dec 2017 08:28

Transgender troops ban is overturned

United States Transgender troops will be allowed to serve in the US military from January 1 after a judge blocked an attempt by the Trump administration to ban them.

President Trump caught his defence officials unawares in July when he announced on Twitter that he was banning transgender people from the US forces. He said that he had made the decision after consulting “with my generals and military experts”. However, James Mattis, the defence secretary, was away at the time and other senior officers expressed surprise. Since then the Pentagon has shown little enthusiasm for the ban, and transgender troops were told that they could serve until the defence department decided how to implement it.

Last night a federal court judge in Washington said that Mr Trump’s order was likely to break constitutional rights. The judge upheld a ruling that had led to the ban being put on hold in October.......

The US military paid for an active duty member to undergo gender- reassignment surgery last month. Mr Trump had argued that the military could not withstand the cost of such procedures and that battle readiness would be impaired if transgender troops were allowed to serve. A study commissioned by the Pentagon cast doubt on both claims.

ORAC 24th Mar 2018 08:20

White House announces ban on transgender people serving in military

The White House has announced orders to formally ban transgender people from serving in the military, following up on Donald Trump’s controversial policy pledge that sparked widespread backlash last year from civil rights groups and US defense chiefs.

Despite opposition from top military officials and previous rulings against the ban, which LGBT rights groups have challenged in court, a memo from the secretary of defense released late Friday night said trans people are “disqualified from military service except under certain limited circumstances”. The memo did not elaborate on possible exceptions, but said the secretary of defense and secretary of homeland security “may exercise their authority to implement any appropriate policies concerning military service by transgender individuals”....
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Wander00 24th Mar 2018 11:45

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