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Looks like we'll have to be patient and wait until next week then.......

Who wants to bet that it's been delayed due to 'recent events' and they don't want to look like massive hypocrites by simultaneously praising the various security forces and also giving them a pay rise that's below inflation (i.e. a real terms pay cut) and also way below what accommodation costs etc will rise by!

The Armed Forces Covenant is a promise from the nation that those who serve or have served in the armed forces, and their families, are treated fairly.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...orting-informa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1iipvzr4s

That'll be the "Armed Forces Con Trick" then

Just had a response from the OME, expect announcement Tuesday or Wednesday next week.....so my first post was spot on.....

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Originally Posted by Jumping_Jack (Post 9717893)

Just had a response from the OME, expect announcement Tuesday or Wednesday next week.....so my first post was spot on.....

Doubtless that then will push all the posturing regarding Article 50 into the sidelines in the "medya".
:hmm:

Hmmmm...Let's see....I do not think that HM Gov can foresee ANY likelyhood that HM Armed Forces will become involved in a manpower-critical conflict within say, the next ten years :rolleyes:. To that end, they are quite content to see manpower levels -25%. Overstretch is simply a cost saving. Sorry!:uhoh:

OAP

OAP, oh come on 10 years? How about 10 weeks, :)

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Originally Posted by cynicalint (Post 9717142)

20 things I've learned since becoming an air traffic controller
"Zero stress and an £80,000 salary: 20 things I've learned since becoming an air traffic controller"

It's not just aircrew who could look at higher paid jobs...saw this in the torygraph today, I assume contents to be taken with a pinch of salt but indicates the salaries available to other branches and trades outside the RAF.

Indeed, numerous mates of my generation went on to 2nd careers on the civil side. Although most of them (sqn ldr/wg cdr) tended to into office jobs at NATS. Still nicely paid, of course, on top of their RAF Pensions. We even had an Air Cdre who bailed out about a year after promotion, and went to Eurocontrol!

I have no idea what the current 'move across' might be, though. And there's no direct licencing read-across for operational ATCOs, to a very fifferent environment. So they would not only have to paas the civil training, buy also unlearn a lot of their past experience. ISTR that NATS wasn't very keen on ex-Mil ATCOs in the past.

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Originally Posted by Onceapilot (Post 9719031)

Overstretch is simply a cost saving. Sorry!:uhoh:

OAP

Unless you're an MP and it becomes part of the rationale for a 10% pay rise whilst the rest of the country is on austerity measures!

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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator (Post 9719740)

OAP, oh come on 10 years? How about 10 weeks, :)

Hi Pontious, Yes I quite agree. It is, in my opinion, the carelessness, self interest and short-sighted unfounded optimism of our elected representatives that can lead Tommy into battle.:(

OAP

Oh, come-on Meltchy...we are all in this together. Aren't we?:oh:

OAP

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Originally Posted by Onceapilot (Post 9719957)

Oh, come-on Meltchy...we are all in this together. Aren't we?:oh:

OAP

Of course we're all in this together. Apparently my MP has cut back his smoked salmon and Bollinger afternoon tea to twice per week

Melchett, how can you be so cynical? Poor old George Osborne has had to take on numerous jobs just to make ends meet!

Report out now for those bothered.

It says you will be doing more...for less! :(

OAP

Are there pages missing? Cannot for the life of me see the section on retention initiatives.

Can we now put back the post relating to Flying RRP.

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MOD updated us with developments related to the impact of cuts imposed by the 2010 Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) on RRP. The cuts mean that when an individual applies voluntarily to terminate their service, entitlement to all forms of RRP ceases from the date of their application being approved. In our view, this policy seems unjustified for certain groups such as submariners who will still be required to be at sea after having given notice. This issue continues to impact morale and retention negatively, particularly among those who have served a full career or are on career extensions, and are expected to serve this notice without receiving any RRP. We were disappointed to be told in evidence that there were no plans to further review the policy at this time; we believe this to be misconceived and wholly unjustified and it should be given further consideration.

A quick read of this document clearly reveals that MoD is up $hit creek without a paddle. All those things which many PPRuNers warned about over the years, such as the wanton destruction of the widely-regarded excellence of the flying training system, the failure to maintain the hard-won military accreditation system for civil pilot licences and the moral blackmail of ending Flying Pay to those who PVR, have come home to roost.

As the idiots sowed, now shall they reap....:mad: