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spekesoftly 1st Jan 2017 11:55


Brize if memory serves me correctly, I was told, had an electrically heated all weather runway ....
Presumably good for melting snow and ice, but of little or no benefit to fog dispersal?

chevvron 2nd Jan 2017 06:31


Originally Posted by Innominate (Post 9626471)
Was FIDO ever installed at Brize?

I don't think so - it was mostly for Bomber Command and the three emergency runways (Manston, Carnaby and Woodbridge). I believe that Brize was primarily an aircraft storage unit, so it was unlikely to see landings in poor vis.

During the latter part of WW2, it was a massive glider pilot training school too.
As I said, there was definitely FIDO at Blackbushe, last lit in the '50s I think with some of the open channels for the burners still existing.

octavian 2nd Jan 2017 08:16

At risk of a bit of thread drift, but hopefully the Mods will be tolerant, there is an excellent book about FIDO: Flying Through Fire, by Geoffrey Williams, from which I have cribbed this list of UK FIDO equipped airfields:

Blackbushe
Bradwell Bay
Carnaby
Downham Market
Fiskerton
Foulsham
Graveley
Ludford Magna
Manston
Melbourne
Metheringham
St Eval
Sturgate
Tuddenham
Woodbridge

Hope this is of interest.

chevvron 3rd Jan 2017 02:31


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 9627142)
During the latter part of WW2, it was a massive glider pilot training school too.
As I said, there was definitely FIDO at Blackbushe, last lit in the '50s I think with some of the open channels for the burners still existing.

In fact I've discovered a Pathe News clip dated 1952 showing it being tested.
www.blackbusheairport.proboards.com in the section entitled 'Any movie clips Blackbushe related welcome'

Wander00 3rd Jan 2017 06:46

Some testing was done in I think Queen Mary reservoir west of what is now Heathrow. In the early part of WW2 dad was in the AFS/NFS and was on fire cover for the tests

tmmorris 3rd Jan 2017 08:10

chevvron's link is broken - try this

Fog.. | Blackbushe Airport - The one-stop Forum

chevvron 3rd Jan 2017 11:32


Originally Posted by tmmorris (Post 9628232)
chevvron's link is broken - try this

Fog.. | Blackbushe Airport - The one-stop Forum

Well it was 3.30am!
I've corrected it now.

Top West 50 4th Jan 2017 21:38

The 26 Cat 1 ILS was quite good enough for a Tristar autoland, if done correctly. It wasn't cleared of course. What was really dangerous, in my opinion, was the requirement to disengage the autopilots at 200ft/DH. On disengagement, the autopilot inserted a safety pitch up. Just what you need when all you have for visual reference is 2 bars of lighting!

Dan Winterland 5th Jan 2017 06:15

More FIDO digression:

Marham was a FIDO station. Trials of FIDO Mk2 (burning kerosene) were being conducted as late as 1959 - presumably for the V Bombers, which also had the very first operational auto-land system in the Leader Cable. The fuel farm that used to be just North of the 24 Threshold was the original tank system for FIDO and was sometimes referred to as "The FIDO Farm".


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